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Brian Villanueva's avatar

Betz's first article has anti-multiculturalism quotes by Merkel and Cameron from the early 2010's. What happened? Did emotivism conquer them? Did they decide immigration was an economic imperative for the EU? (Based on birthrates, it probably is.) Were they just talking out of their butts?

You mentioned that Betz compares the culture war to a real war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbdJtrXYBZs That's Bret Weinstein's ARC talk in which he's explicitly does the same thing. I don't particularly like Weinstein, and he veers outside his lane toward the end and gets really weird, but the first 11 minutes are worth your time.

Betz also suggests that "bread and circuses" are a regime's final tools of legitimacy. Some form of UBI and AI based porn / virtual boyfriends would be the modern form of this. Not surprisingly, the latter is already started and noise about the former is picking up (ironically, the need cited is AI economic displacement.)

Also, I agree about not dismissing Guy Edward Bartkus. What he did is morally reprehensible but utterly logical from a Nietzschean perspective. The origin myths we tell ourselves matter.

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What's missing in this discussion (and analysis by Betz and other commentators who've been repeating the civil war message for years) is an acknowledgement of the role of social media in formenting bad ideas at a group level and generating anger at the individual level (dopamine loops, screen attention retention, etc).

Instead of civil war, the examples (in the US) are related to civil strife. In Europe, the Nice/Cannes event smelt fishy (false flag psyop etc) and the electric grid malfunction in Spain was just that, a malfunction. Civil war necessitates the emergence and preexistence of groups with a political identity which doesn't find a fit within the political disbursement of deserts (resources). In Europe dissent thus far finds a voice in the right and left political parties. A case can be made that the center left and right is marginalizing and attempting to shut them down, but so far this hasn't succeeded (yes, Romania marked a new extreme). I'm not saying a case can't be made for a resurgence of nationalism, but in Europe the white elephant in the room is the cumulative effects of the EU and it's democratic deficit as the source of angst.

All that being said, I really do think we should start connecting the dots with the disasters created by smartphones, social media, and generally dishonest business models seeking to extract rents and turn individuals into products.

This is the cherry on top of dysfunctional socio-political and economic practices (existing since forever) in terms of privatizing profit and making the public pay the costs. Our monetary systems have been broken since early in the 20th c., and while we've been able to put paper mâche over the cracks of political dysfunction with "infinite growth" (or infinite devaluation/inflation), the can can't be kicked much further down the road.

But my point is the atomization of individuals, coupled with classics like alienation, is a bad ingredient to have in the mix with social media, which incites emotional engagement (esp. Anger). People with nothing to loose do spur of the moment crazy things.

So more than civil war, civil strife might be a better explanation.

Although, if and when a random event lights a fuse, everything could degenerate into civil unrest and then civil war.

I read Dreher and agree that the border patrol have guns for a reason. And the only reasonable explanation I have to all that's happening is that it's been allowed to happen because it's part of the plan. Maybe Betz is part of the plan and signals a shift in the Overton window.

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