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Flatulus Maximus's avatar

A couple of thoughts. First, we've already experienced massive redistribution; recent examples being the 2008 financial crisis, and Covid. Combine this with the hollowing out of industry and the offshoring of so many jobs. It isn't just Gen Z getting a raw deal. The older middle class is feeling it, too. No one is likely to accept Universal Basic Income. Just look at the cavalcade of corruption and fraud stories, many involving elected/appointed leaders. On top of all this add tens of millions of unassimilable immigrants and you do have the preconditions for violence. The war we actually need to have is against Islam, but as of this moment we don't have the leadership to wage it. I'll go out on a limb and predict that there will be states and/or conglomerations of states that secede from the union, and that it will be Islamic invaders who precipitate it. We seem willing to tolerate almost limitless corruption, but put mosques where they're not wanted and communities have to deal with rape gangs? You can count on violence.

Max Remington's avatar

Universal basic income sounds nice until you realize it's going to lead to even more inflation. The never-ending steep rise in the cost of living will further necessitate UBI, further fueling inflation, until one day, we end up exceeding the point of diminishing and can no longer afford to keep inflating the economy to save people from poverty.

I agree Islam is the real enemy. I'd say we'd need to end up where Europe is today first because we begin to see any real pushback against it, however. U.S. is still far behind on the timeline.

midtown's avatar

I've worked in politics, or adjacent to politics, since the early 1990s. I can attest that we entered an intense culture war at that point that was very manifested in the political world, too. Bill Clinton's presidency was a highly contested time, and the Monica Lewinsky scandal was part of that. That continued through the 2000s and only picked up steam since then. We have at least two competing value systems that are in many ways locked in a zero-sum game. So yes, we are scooting by and for now I think real conflict is not near. But if the Democrats let their intrusive thoughts come out and they try to add states, pack the Supreme Court, etc., that could lead to an unraveling very quickly.

Yianni1955's avatar

I have to respectfully disagree with your basic premise. Prior to the Immigration Act of 1965, America was a homogeneous nation of 85-90% White, Christian, Western European immigrants. The downward spiral of non-assimilation, and loss of a high-trust society began once we started the importation from brown/black, non-Christian, non-Western 3rd world shitholes. In addition, we have allowed an influx of Communists and Islamists, BOTH of which are incompatible with our American Constitution, laws, and American culture. We have created a " witch's brew" of polar opposites of ideologies, beliefs and cultures, which can only be SYNTHESIZED and find equilibrium through VIOLENCE.

Max Remington's avatar

I disagree with liberals who say our problems today have been faced before and can be overcome again. I also disagree with conservatives who say that everything was fine pre-1965 when were were homogeneous. That period when everything was supposedly fine was a 20-year span from the end of World War II to 1965. A brief period in our whole history. In fact, I'd argue that World War II made the nation, or what little of it there was, more than we've been willing to confess.

Yianni1955's avatar

There have always been problems in America during every generation. That's just human nature and the way of the world. The beginning of demographic replacement however, started in earnest, in 1965 when Congress enacted the changes to immigration policy. Going from 90% homogeneity of race, religion and culture to less than 60% while bringing in people of entirely different religions, culture, race, and mindsets who are NOT ASSIMILATING, is simply suicidal. What is worse is that the people and the ideologies they bring with them are FERAL. The native population's inherent characteristics of trust, fairness, cooperation, and tolerance, are being used against them. Unless they can regain their survival instincts and rediscover their innate tribalism, they will be wiped off the face of the earth as surely as was the Dodo bird.

Londoner's avatar

'As unstable as our sociopolitical situation is growing, we’re still not in as bad a place as we were in the 1960s and 1970s.' That's true but consider the cost and long term viability of the status quo. Massive increases in state and private debt and de facto to buy off the usual suspects and acceptance of anarcho-tyranny to keep them from rioting and looting.