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Kyle's avatar

I agree with you insofar as the administration needs to find subtler, longer-lasting means to achieve its ends. It’s a mistake to focus so many resources on recalcitrant cities—maybe you win the “Battle of Minneapolis,” but you end up losing the broader war because the public sours on you. I dunno.

Putting Homan in charge sounds like a step in the right direction. I didn’t like Noem’s incendiary rhetoric—claiming that Pretti was there to massacre LEOs was a bold-faced lie, even if the second video shows he was fundamentally an agitator and not some doe-eyed, innocent protester.

So long as the border stays shut and illegal immigrants are incentivized to depart the U.S. (repatriation flights, $3,000 checks, etc.), I’ll be content. But I want this approach to outlast Trump, which requires legislative solutions: border wall funding, ICE training, criminal action against employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens, mandatory e-verify (or a better replacement, honestly), and penalties against sanctuary cities. I’ll never entertain the idea of amnesty, though. It’ll just restart the cycle all over again…

Dollyboy's avatar

Some guy was writing about trans and how he didn't want cocks in frocks going into his daughter's locker room. He said we must block the doors. He noted how much more difficult it would be to remove them once they are given access to the female locker rooms. I thought - damn that's so similar to the migrant situation. It was always going to be ugly - getting them out. I wonder if it would have been better to grant amnesty to those in the US and then block the door? No more. Cos the liklihood of more shootings is almost assured.

EternalSwayze's avatar

You understand that these types of deaths are exactly what the Left *wants*, for propaganda purposes.

You understand that the biased media will always hold the Right to impossible standards no matter what they do.

You understand that backing down in Minneapolis will incentivize every deep Blue urban area to imitate their insurrectionary insanity, since they see that it works.

And still you think we should back down? Absurd.

To answer your question, much much more than we have seen so far.

ashoka's avatar

What is concerning is that backing down, ramping up, or staying the course in Minneapolis may all lead to similar cities and states with similar leaders starting their own insurrections. Sometimes you rarely see that you are falling off the cliff until it is too late.

Halftrolling's avatar

Does the average normie give a shit:

If yes - Tactical retreat and then spin this back up after midterms

If no - keep pushing

Charlie Prime's avatar

The purpose of these I.C.E. theatrics is another Illegal Alien Amnesty like Reagan and the Republicans passed in 1986.

1. Create a Problem

2. Entirely predictable backlash Reaction occurs.

3. Offer relief via the Solution you wanted in the first place.

It's cattle management 101.

Thomistic Mishima's avatar

I feel you left this off. What is the equivalent to sending in the SAS for Trump in this situation?

Buffalo Pete's avatar

Your Vietnam War analogy is correct in exactly one way: we were winning in Vietnam before Walter Cronkite convinced everyone we were losing. And then we lost, because everyone believed Walter Cronkite.

Flash forward. We are winning and Walter Cronkite is dead. The legacy press is pissing and moaning about this poor innocent nurse and no one fucking cares. You sound like George W Bush talking about hearts and minds while the grown ups are out here fighting a war.

ashoka's avatar

Being in Vietnam itself was a loss because that war was entirely pointless. Even if the U.S. had preserved our puppet regime in the South or forced the communists out of power in the North, it still would not have been worth the loss of American life and the domestic and cultural turmoil the war caused. The domino theory was wrong. The communists took over but then sided against the other communists in China and Cambodia, only to become de facto capitalists and a trading partner of the U.S. two decades after the war anyway.

That being said, I don't really see the Tet Offensive as being analogous to what is going on in Minneapolis. The costs of backing down now are too high. This is a Whiskey Rebellion or Nullification Crisis moment. If the federal government backs down now, that is going to send a message to blue states that these kinds of theatrics and resistance to federal supremacy work and are tolerated. Tucker Carlson is not wrong when he says that might be how America ends as a nation.

Max Remington's avatar

I mentioned the Tet Offensive not as an analogue, but as an example of how you have to be willing to shift strategies according to changing political realities. That idea you can stay the course after something like the backlash the Tet Offensive triggered is unfathomable. I know the Right has really internalized the belief we're not a democracy, but it doesn't change the fact we still live in a time where public opinion matters. In fact, public opinion matters in a dictatorship, too. That's why dictators are so big on their propaganda game.

ashoka's avatar

It is a difficult situation, from an optical standpoint. I believe your proposal is too much of a concession and would hand the left a victory that would not move the needle much on the administration's approval rating. The fact is that there is an irreconcilable and potentially unbridgeable moral and political divide right now over mass migration in the West and how to handle it. Rebranding ICE will not change that, and neither will the administration softening its approach, which is what Hollman actually tried to do when he met with Walz.

What we really need is a leader like Vance who can clearly articulate, over and over, why mass deportations are necessary and moral, in clear, rational language that moves independents to see the need for this. Trump is not that person. The focus should be on the long game of framing the issue. The midterms really do not look that bad. Democrats will likely take the House by a thin margin, but the Senate looks fine, which is typical and expected. I would channel Jackson and Hamilton on this issue, exude authority and competence. Fire Noem, announce a clear plan and path forward, hold Walz and Frey accountable, and justify what needs to happen in historical, constitutional, and moral terms.

Max Remington's avatar

We weren't winning in Vietnam because South Vietnam wasn't capable of self-government. We could kill as many of the Communists as we liked but as long as South Vietnam remained incapable of self-government and the Viet Cong insurgency active, the U.S. would've never won. If you look at the entire history of the Vietnam War from start to finish, that becomes clear. If you only look at the Vietnam War during the 1965 - 1969 period, you might think we could've won, though the number of casualties we suffered was disproportionate to the gains we would've had. It just wasn't a war worth fighting.

OregonB's avatar

Well written & have to agree. We live in a space where truth is contingent & control of the narrative is critical. Take away the oxygen from the outlets, organizations, protestors, and posters portraying this as a heroic, David vs. Goliath battle. It isn't, but - like Vietnam - it isn't turning out well and could get worse. Adopt different tactics. Fade into the countryside. Use precision, not mass. Deception. Employ law enforcement and political assets to squeeze Walz ("Work with us, Tim, or we are going to open a 200-man, $50m investigation that we promise will land you in a jail cell with a 400 lb huggie-buddy for a year)

Max Remington's avatar

My biggest beef with the Trump administration, among many, is how he has to make a big show of everything. Good politicians understand that some of your best successes happen under the radar. I remain convinced Trump prefers the grand spectacle over tangible results.

OregonB's avatar

100%. He has considerable assets (but diminishing goodwill) to deploy, use them surgically...right now it's like 1917 trench warfare, battle of wills, little progress.

Dukeboy01's avatar

"Once more, with feeling: if you care about any of this, you need to ask yourself the question, how much more bloodshed are you willing to tolerate?"

Much, much more than we've seen and much more than most people are ready for. It's going to come down to blood. It always does.

I don't think that many on the Right are really appreciating how damaging the removal of illegal immigrants is to the Democrats electoral prospects after the 2030 census and the subsequent congressional reapportionment. (If you've addressed this, I apologize. I'm a subscriber, but I don't read everyday.) Because illegals count towards overall state population, Blue States have inflated their share of representation. Yes, there are illegals in Red States too, but there are higher concentrations relative to the native populations in places like New York and California.

Couple that with the out migration of natives to Red States that's been going on since Covid and the Blue States stand to lose up to 30 seats after 2030. If that happens then a Republican can lose every state in the "Blue Wall" swing states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin and still win the White House. The GOP will have a supermajority in the Senate and a 20+ vote cushion in the House.

Couple that with the appearance based upon the investigative reporting by independent journalists on the amount of fraud coming out of Minnesota which makes it look like the Minnesota DFL runs a central hub for money laundering and other shenanigans on behalf of the national party and this fight becomes existential for the Progressives.

It's a much bigger fight than over whether or not the illegals get deported. It really is shaping up to be a fight for all the marbles and I don't think the Right appreciates it.

Brian Villanueva's avatar

This fight is absolutely about 2030. The Democrats face a census catastrophe even if all the illegals are still here. Without them, it's even more brutal. Both parties know this. Neither will admit it out loud.

Ted's avatar

"It makes you wonder why it wasn’t done sooner, but we all know what we’re dealing with here."

Because it had to wait for its number to come up on the dance card, Mr. Remington.

As always, you make good points and raise relevant questions. As far as I can determine, the Long march has reached the cusp of the "red guard" stage, with seditionists having already completed their coup during the reign of the Biden junta.

The matter must be contextualized temporally; the tactics of the insurgency are focused on optics and more importantly; delay. Given the rise to power of totalitarians in state and local governments, our federal government faces two existential challenges; to disempower the apparatchiki and to reverse the gains of the revolutionists.

Examples from other nations should, of course, be considered, but we have the "two term" issue to deal with, here. It was all well-and-good for the Irish troubles to have been dealt with as they were, but we do not have a parliamentary monarchy that allows continuity of leadership at the executive level of our federation.

We shall see what President Trump has "up his sleeve" very shortly, I suspect. As far as Mr. Bovino is concerned, he's a short-timer on his way to retirement, has served the country honorably and faithfully, and will do his part. If that means resuming his core mission and role away from the spotlight, fine.

It occurs to me, that there must be symmetry. If a strategic pause is to be allowed in order to retrench, it must be a rapid shift and most importantly, there must be visible prosecutions of the insurgents, and not by kangaroo court in the J6 manner.

My question, is regarding the signals being sent and who will be sacrificed by being surrendered to be prosecuted for their crimes. The "resistance" is not going to stop, regardless, and examples must be made of both the leaders and the useful idiots that have broken the law.

Again; it's a matter of working against time. Events didn't reach this pass in a vacuum; the systemic issues that resulted from looting aggregate wealth a decade-plus ago, have not been resolved and there never would have been meaningful funding of this insurgency, were it not for the concentration of wealth that accelerated during the subprime meltdown.

At the root of it, is economics; it's always only and ever about the money. From my days as an activist in the nineteen-seventies, I have observed that pattern. Any evaluation of events and tactics that elides that foundational paradigm, is incomplete. I can see the current crop of agitators busily organizing, everywhere I look. I see the capital flows and how they are made available at the local level.

It's a multivariate paradigm with a lot of moving parts and bad actors.

Time and money; what else is new?

Well, we're going to find out. Meanwhile it's imperative that the confused moderates get "talked down off of the ledge." This is where the electronic age means nothing; hearts and minds are still won, one at a time and by means of personal interaction. You are correct to remind people to be honest; we are all sinners and even the madman Nietzsche understood that, when we stare into the abyss, it stares back into us.

I became quite unpopular at one point, about twenty-five years ago when I addressed a certain group with "whatever lies you tell outsiders, I can't control, but don't lie to us within the organization and don't make the mistake of convincing yourself that your lies are truth." The spluttering, angry protests were as you would expect, but self-deception is tantamount to a psychotic break with reality.

Logic is pretty thin on the ground, most of the time.

Talk to us about the temporal and economic factors, Mr. Remington; weave them into the tapestry of your analysis.

Mark Marshall's avatar

I COMPLETELY disagree on abolishing ICE. Otherwise, a lot of good points.

Brian Villanueva's avatar

Re Bovino: Lincoln went through 4 generals before he found Grant. He went through 3 more before Grant found McClellan.

Re Petti: I thought he was just in over his head -- the enforcement operation moved quickly and engulfed him before he had time to think about it. However, apparently he had a run-in with ICE a week earlier as well that resulted in a broken rib. https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs It's still a tragedy, but two violent incidents in a week makes this look more like Renee Good: someone who knowingly and foolishly inserted himself into the middle of a fugitive arrest operation.

Overall, this feels like Trump seizing a bad-PR exit ramp and getting only "we'll consider it" in return. The TACO meme isn't entirely false, so it remains to be seen if Walz will actually cooperate.

Abraxas's avatar

Good post. I don't agree with everything you write, but I enjoy reading logic and reason that is often scarce in these times.

That being said, the Tet Offensive was a massive win for the US. The Viet Cong got their shit wrecked and blew most of their strength in a failed offensive.

The fact that it was a propaganda win, and as a result everyone remembers the Tet Offensive as a US loss is still worth mulling over.

Max Remington's avatar

Sure the U.S. and South Vietnam successfully defeated the Tet Offensive. The problem was it marked a continuity error - the U.S., up until that point, had been saying they had the war in hand, North Vietnam was a threat they could handle, then they get pushed to the brink.

It's like a boxer taking it easy with his opponent, taking light jabs, then the opponent counters with a furious volley that has him on the ropes, before counter-attacking and ultimately winning the bout. A lot of people would have trouble taking the boxer seriously after that and the opponent, despite losing, would be viewed with much greater respect for the fight they put up.

Cia Parker's avatar

Invoking the Insurrection Act and martial law in Minneapolis would impose a time out in which the situation would cool down. I wouldn’t let anarchy and the protection of criminals get any further. Those who don’t want to meet a stupid death shouldn’t impede law enforcement operations. Should obey instructions and not resist arrest. If they take a legal gun with them to beat up ICE agents, they should tell them that they have it.

I think it’s like the many thousands of leftists enthusiastically condoning the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I would not give in to them an inch.

Kevin Citron's avatar

ok you have a point. 20mm illegals get to stay bc a jew homo marxist got shot.

Ben Mordecai's avatar

I am once again questioning what you are thinking with this post. If anything, since the last post we have been more vindicated in our position.

American is not worried about Renee Good and Alex Pretti. They are thinking about the Seahawks and the Patriots. They are thinking about money, groceries, jobs, gas, and stuff like that.

Frankly, the deaths of these people were not tragedies, they are an inevitable fact of the radical communist methods of the activists. The whole strategy is to use "I'm not touching you tactics" as far as possible to try to draw a response so they can cry about it. At this point, people who are strongly politically minded are already information bubbles where they decided what happened before they saw the videos and what really happened doesn't even matter. We cynically understand that the facts don't matter at all, just whether you can prosecute, who is doing the prosecution, and how you can hack the judiciary for this purpose.

On a personal level I am glad they are dead. We need more communists to die in this country. I wish 100x as many of them died. On a tactical level, their deaths don't benefit us because they don't actually take away left power, and they serve as a minor propaganda victory for low information normies who are told to have a moment of silence before a hockey game. But everyone is going to forget these people. No one remembers the dude who lit himself on fire. We can wait like one month and people will forget.

However, signalgate is the real story here, because with the doxxing of the signal group, you have definitive proof of the coordination, the MN government involvement and the intent of the rioters. The doxxing of the group was abject moral defeat for them, and their numbers are already diminishing. Walz already seems to be throwing them under the bus. Trump is going to win just by keeping this up.

Londoner's avatar

I'm not glad that they are dead but otherwise your post is spot on.

Dukeboy01's avatar

I'm not going to dance on their graves, but I'm not going to shed any tears over them either.