It'll take a lot to get me into a theater for a Hollywood movie, but I'll probably watch this eventually.
That's my excuse, but this movie reminded me of Florence King's response to whether or not she watched Ken Burns' Civil War documentary, "I didn't have time to watch The Civil War. I'm too busy getting ready for the next one."
I don't know if anyone's making jokes like that about this movie or what it says that for a variety of reasons people today are a lot less likely to see a statement like that as a joke.
I loved Jericho as well. A fascinating series if anyone here hasn't seen it. Unfortunately, it never really got to an endpoint since it was cut, b ut what they made was excellent.
I plan to watch the movie at some point, probably once it's available to stream. Like most, I assumed that it would have been made to pick on Trump and MAGA as the villians. I'm glad to hear that's not the case.
Long- term though, I believe that we are too far gone as a nation to stay together in our current configuration. As a committed Dissolutionist, I don't want us to. I hope to live long enough to see the Stars and Stripes lowered all over the world and the flags of 5- 6 new nations raised in it's place. I'm personally convinced that we will get there. The only question is how much misery we'll inflict on each other before calling it quits.
You know who gets divorced? People who talk about getting divorced and as a nation we're talking about it more and more. This movie getting made and released to the public in an election year is the equivalent of that one couple we've all seen at a dinner party who've been sniping at each other all night, making little cutting remarks, making everybody else uncomfortable and all of a sudden one of the spouses brings up the "Big D" in a way where they're kidding... but not kidding.
So are we going to break up more or less amicably in the coming years or does this relationship end in a murder- suicide? If this movie wakes up more people to the necessity to start working out a peaceful(ish) separation, than that's a good thing, IMO.
I simply don’t see why cooler heads wouldn’t be trying to separate peaceably. It would allow people to live with those who share their values and we could cooperate when necessary. And we could stop hating each other.
The approach in Civil War reminds me of the approach in Dunkirk that was taken with their Germans. They’re there, but don’t really matter as much as the British characters. Here, the politics don’t matter as much as what those politics have created.
I’m not sure how accurately the portrayal would reflect the reality. Without having the time at the moment to research it, my hypothesis is that the more failed a state is, the bloodier the civil conflict will be. Crime and banditry become intermingled with ideology as a promoter of violence. America isn’t there yet, but the stark reality is that the living arrangements have long since overtaken the ability to sustain them. It is impossible to reasonably think that the inability to slow the growth of food prices, and cost of living in general, isn’t going to result in increasing anger and desperation.
I tend to think that it is not so much worry over politics this year that is driving this angst, but that we also do not have a functioning government any longer. It has become reactive, not proactive, and has been that way for a long time. A failed state doesn’t necessarily have to have failed economically, but so many factors go into it that it is not hard to see on some level that we are mimicking the journey many other states have taken to the bottom.
I’m looking forward to seeing it, myself. We just had Dune as a meditation on many things, and now, Civil War. If only Metropolis gets released at some point…
I can’t really watch anything out of Hollywood anymore without a jaundiced, cynical eye about it. So I might not have watched this and I still
may not. This review, however, gives me some hope that cooler heads can prevail. One thing about an actual civil war in this country seems to me that over any extended timeframe of war, many millions in this country and all over the world would starve to death. It would be horrific beyond measure. Other countries would almost have to get involved. The bloodbath would be unspeakable. I want to say it can never happen. But it can.
It'll take a lot to get me into a theater for a Hollywood movie, but I'll probably watch this eventually.
That's my excuse, but this movie reminded me of Florence King's response to whether or not she watched Ken Burns' Civil War documentary, "I didn't have time to watch The Civil War. I'm too busy getting ready for the next one."
I don't know if anyone's making jokes like that about this movie or what it says that for a variety of reasons people today are a lot less likely to see a statement like that as a joke.
I won’t be watching in theaters but I appreciate the alternative perspective to the takedown I’m going to listen to of this movie tomorrow.
I loved Jericho as well. A fascinating series if anyone here hasn't seen it. Unfortunately, it never really got to an endpoint since it was cut, b ut what they made was excellent.
I plan to watch the movie at some point, probably once it's available to stream. Like most, I assumed that it would have been made to pick on Trump and MAGA as the villians. I'm glad to hear that's not the case.
Long- term though, I believe that we are too far gone as a nation to stay together in our current configuration. As a committed Dissolutionist, I don't want us to. I hope to live long enough to see the Stars and Stripes lowered all over the world and the flags of 5- 6 new nations raised in it's place. I'm personally convinced that we will get there. The only question is how much misery we'll inflict on each other before calling it quits.
You know who gets divorced? People who talk about getting divorced and as a nation we're talking about it more and more. This movie getting made and released to the public in an election year is the equivalent of that one couple we've all seen at a dinner party who've been sniping at each other all night, making little cutting remarks, making everybody else uncomfortable and all of a sudden one of the spouses brings up the "Big D" in a way where they're kidding... but not kidding.
So are we going to break up more or less amicably in the coming years or does this relationship end in a murder- suicide? If this movie wakes up more people to the necessity to start working out a peaceful(ish) separation, than that's a good thing, IMO.
I simply don’t see why cooler heads wouldn’t be trying to separate peaceably. It would allow people to live with those who share their values and we could cooperate when necessary. And we could stop hating each other.
The approach in Civil War reminds me of the approach in Dunkirk that was taken with their Germans. They’re there, but don’t really matter as much as the British characters. Here, the politics don’t matter as much as what those politics have created.
I’m not sure how accurately the portrayal would reflect the reality. Without having the time at the moment to research it, my hypothesis is that the more failed a state is, the bloodier the civil conflict will be. Crime and banditry become intermingled with ideology as a promoter of violence. America isn’t there yet, but the stark reality is that the living arrangements have long since overtaken the ability to sustain them. It is impossible to reasonably think that the inability to slow the growth of food prices, and cost of living in general, isn’t going to result in increasing anger and desperation.
I tend to think that it is not so much worry over politics this year that is driving this angst, but that we also do not have a functioning government any longer. It has become reactive, not proactive, and has been that way for a long time. A failed state doesn’t necessarily have to have failed economically, but so many factors go into it that it is not hard to see on some level that we are mimicking the journey many other states have taken to the bottom.
I’m looking forward to seeing it, myself. We just had Dune as a meditation on many things, and now, Civil War. If only Metropolis gets released at some point…
I can’t really watch anything out of Hollywood anymore without a jaundiced, cynical eye about it. So I might not have watched this and I still
may not. This review, however, gives me some hope that cooler heads can prevail. One thing about an actual civil war in this country seems to me that over any extended timeframe of war, many millions in this country and all over the world would starve to death. It would be horrific beyond measure. Other countries would almost have to get involved. The bloodbath would be unspeakable. I want to say it can never happen. But it can.