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Haitians had a dead White baby on a spear as their flag for many years. They genocidedvthe Whites on the island 11 years after the end of slavery, then killed all the mixed race a few years later.

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Yes, I read Camp of the Saints years ago at Rod Dreher's recommendation. I wish I'd stolen my library copy because the publisher refuses to reprint the English translation and copies are now going for $250 each.

It's a great book. It's a terrible book. It's a disgusting book. It's a scary book. And the reason is that, like Nietzsche, Raspail is brutally honest about the real world.

If you haven't read Michel Houllebecq's Submission, I highly recommend it. It's not as brutally racist as Camp of the Saints at all, but the theme of the book (an exhausted French civilization that can't be bothered to defend itself from a slow speed invasion) is similar. When it was published, the idea of the French Left allying with Islamists parties to keep the National Front (so-called far-right) out of power seemed far-fetched. Less so today.

As for Haiti, there's nothing that can be done. I have a branch of my family tree that is simply dysfunctional. They will consume any amount of help given to them, but nothing will change. Magnify that to the scale of a country, and you get Haiti. However, unlike Africa (another dysfunctional place that we ignore), Haiti is right next door. So containment is important. I'm thinking of the 1980's movie Escape from New York...

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Jean Raspail, Michel Houllebecq, Renaud Camus, and Laurent Obertone, whom I was recently introduced, are what I refer to as the "Four Horsemen of French Apocalypse."

Except they're not the ones bringing the apocalypse. They've been the ones warning of it. But nobody's listening.

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OK. Now I have to get the other 2, since I liked (if that's the right word) Raspail and Houllebecq What book of each should I start with. I'm going on vacation in a week, so I'll have time.

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Easy - Camus. Laurent Obertone's books aren't available in English. Camus' are.

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“I have a branch of my family tree that is simply dysfunctional. They will consume any amount of help given to them, but nothing will change.”

It seems everyone has this branch of the family—the one that cackles about getting one over on their fellow taxpayers, or naively believes there’s just free stuff the government gives everyone for no reason—except for celebrities and the people in DC. They have no clue whatsoever about people who are just looking to dig in to freebies, burn through said freebies like locusts, then move to the next Handout Spot.

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To be fair, perhaps Haiti will fix itself. One of the grandkids on the withered branch is actually a general manager (maybe owner by now) of a pet shop in Las Vegas. At 15 his life path looked just like the rest of them, but something changed. I don't know what it was, but I know it was internal not a response to some outside "help". Similarly for Haiti, the solution will need to come from the Haitians. Perhaps the Africans can help guide them, but we Americans can't solve this. We can only contain it. And as you implied, our (or the UN's or the various well-meaning NGOs) will likely only prolong the suffering and make the resolution harder. As a Christian I hate that; as a realist Christian, I have to accept its truth.

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Evil is never to be trifled with or underestimated.

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Camp of the Saints was a great book, a fast forward and caricature of the inevitable result of our times.

I believe certain regions of the U.S., such as Louisiana, could go down that route. Goodness knows they're already in perennial corruption scandals. The slight nudge of a national collapse would do no good for that problem.

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