Diversity has never worked. Has never been anyone’s “strength,” and is used by the elites (who need to be the first to go) to keep we peasants in line.
"It couldn't happen here" and "they were my neighbors yesterday but strung up my parents today" are also very common refrains in accounts from the Rwandan genocide between the Hutus and Tutsis. One woman who lived through it wrote a book about it and her experiences parallel near everything discussed in this post. She also mentioned the timeline that was years, then months, then weeks, days, hours.
It has happened before, it can happen here, it will happen here.
I hear a lot about it on substack and YouTube but I don't experience any of it at all in my day to day life. Maybe I'm insulated or maybe it's simmering below the surface but I don't see it.
Within the next ten years the powder keg of the west will start to burn. Maybe sooner. Maybe they keep the lid on longer. But it will be terrible and it will be a very dark time for many people.
When my husband was in university for his second degree, we lived in university family housing, row houses with brick pathed commons, where almost every nation was represented. At the time, Iraq was the big enemy, and my neighbour, who was Iranian, was quick to point out that she was from Iran, not Iraq. But more than that, she urged me to borrow her wedding video, and see how Iran had been, less than a decade earlier. No burqas, a very Western looking party with the same kind of clothes as i had had at mine. At the time, i was not very politically aware, and my thinking was that it didn't matter - she was my friend and a good neighbour. Now, 25 years on, i understand much better her concern, and the trauma that she had been through. I wish i could have been a better friend to her.
The idea that strong ties don’t exist in the US is false.
A falsehood that exists online and among rootless cosmopolitans.
Simply not true.
But if you must Doom, then despair and Doom. Yes Mr. Brooks the Bobo paradise ends.
Yes Bourgeoisie the Elemental life and danger returns.
Here is Doom; those of us with ties have no ties but only chains to those that rule us, and abuse us with their courts and feral pets. Indeed their very imported exotic pets turn against them once they get to know them…
I don’t know about cosmopolitans, but everybody who has travelled, and even better lived or worked, in a country with actual close ties, and not totally atomized every-man-for-themselves, could tell that strong ties don’t exist in the US of 2024.
These ties aren’t found in airports, hotels or golf courses.
You have to grow roots to see the trees, never mind forests.
Communities with ties. I’m in such community now, but I’ve certainly lived in several parts of America. Any settled neighborhood or town absolutely has ties. That people “traveling” or moving constantly from place to place don’t see the ties is to be expected. Having none themselves how would they know? How could they know?
The assertion that Americans have no ties to each other , sorry I’ve seen the opposite too many times. Not to mention actual crisis instantly forges those ties where one is… I quite saw this AGAIN the other day during the local flash floods. I saw it in New York and New Jersey after 9/11.
You may quite see it in the many manifestations of the Cajun Navy or The American Red Cross after a disaster, or your local volunteer fire department or volunteer rescue squad. Local Charities, the local Catholic Charities… the ties that any Veteran will have with other Veterans or the military that instantly form, especially if you need help… local churches are always ties and a community, school and school boards…
I can go on.
I suspect the people who believe this bought into the system and haven’t had any of these things- off to college, off to corporate or government. Twill end in Florida in a retirement Potemkin village , I’m told when they go to the great golf course in the sky there’s a crematorium on site, no ceremony, no marker.
Never happened…
You won’t find these ties with a million frequent flyer miles, nor in college, nor in Corporations, nor in government outside of the military or emergency responders.
No roots? Then no trees or forests for you. But they exist.
No one, not least our author, would deny that close communities don't exist in America. That's not the argument. But where the vast majority of Americans live - suburbs/cities - clearly community is totally lacking. Anyone with experience living in other less developed countries understand this by comparison. American life is just too individualised, distracted, and devoid of social/religious ritual to bring others together. There's almost no common culture anywhere. And high school football games and small acts of charity do not a common culture make. I think what you are describing would've similarly felt real to many Russians living in smaller towns/neighborhoods on the eve of their revolution.
That’s nice, then they can die eating each other Spottswood, in a entirely fitting Donner Party ending, considering how they lived. Just ignore that I posted I saw the exact opposite happen in NYC and NJ after 9/11. I forgot to mention Hurricane Sandy.
I added other examples.
I think what you mean is probably you can’t get good restaurant service in a crisis? Or perhaps that is the crisis.
But don’t worry Spottswood, no one is coming to save you, unless you went to save them first.
This is 💩. We’re 🇺🇸 going to make it, but some of you aren’t and sense your Doom.
What the Enemy has awoken in Britain and Ireland cannot be quenched. While the riots were disorganized, emotional and down right retarded in their methods (remain anonymous at all costs when active), the idea of just retribution from an extremely capable people with no other political recourse is very threatening and dangerous to an evil, global enemy that seems powerful and resolute but is in fact weak and desperate.
Hence the seemingly ridiculous reaction from the State. Locking up grandma and 12 year olds for “scary” Facebook posts doesn’t come from a strong, healthy, moral and stable government based in truth. On the contrary, this reaction comes from an entity that has consumed too much of its own supply and is therefore lying on a mattress dying but desperately and dangerously thrashing from time to time.
So be careful.
And this entity. This global deepstate. This Judeo-communist Clown World. Whatever best describes it. Will inevitably collapse under its own weight of all that is foul and anti-Christ.
Thus there is no need for a “government overthrow” just simple but thoughtful application of pressure here and there and it will topple.
In the meantime, prepare as if the White race is at war and the enemy desires nothing more than to destroy it. Because that is the reality. So act accordingly.
One saving grace for the U.S. may be its federalized structure. The original idea of the framers was a confederation of (originally 13, now 50) largely independent republics with a relatively weak federal government handling only overarching concerns like foreign diplomacy and national defense, with each state being a “laboratory of democracy” in which different ideas could be tried as determined by the citizens of that state and the best/most functional ideas could then be adopted in other states. Rather than outright civil war you could have a “great sorting”
where people move to states that comport with their personal political and social views and don’t have to interact much with (or be ordered around by) people who feel very differently. This would require a substantial weakening of the federal government (in my view a good thing, no idea why people think that things that work in New York should also necessarily be forced on people in Alaska) but would allow for different views to coexist at the national level while maintaining harmony at the local level. At this point it is hard to imagine the federal government to allow itself to be weakened to the point that the founders intended but if things get hot, perhaps people will take another look at how things were originally intended to work in this country.
It could be akin to the breakup of India into India, Bangladesh and Pakistan. As you say, a great movement of people to be with those who share their views and values.
Civil war implies two (or more) sides fighting for control of an entire nation, correct? Why not separatism? The incorrectly-named civil war of the 19th century did not “settle” this, as Americans claim. It’s all a question of enforcement.
I am German, grew up with the most horrible stories of the aftermath of a multicultural society (todays Czechia), travelled extensively in Nineties Russia and partly grew up in the US. So here is my prediction about the US:
1. The US is not a country in the usual sense of the word. It is a continent with still lot´s of free space. It afforded the luxury to let her NorthEast go wild again as there was so much more agricultural space further West. (It´s an untold story but look at historical maps of NH, Maine, NYS and todays pattern of settlement)
2. The "tribes" aren´t strong enough for a real civil war. There are exceptions - the Appalachians come to mind - but for the most part there is not enough cohesion for different groups to go to war effectively
3. Nothing is more terrible than chaos. I´ve seen it in the Nineties in Russia where there were gunshots every night in the very center of Moscow. In the end people will accept anything as long as there is physical security.
4. The US military and security establishment has lot´s of experience propping up military regimes in South America. In the end that will happen in the US as well. Naked violence condoned by a citizenry that prefers anything to chaos. Sadly that is the lot of multicultural societies. Chalmers Johnson has foreseen the end of the American republic and foretold it. Look up his books which he wrote 20 years ago.
I don't understand why you'd think the tribes are not strong enough for a civil war. There are basically two tribes, like Max argued; one has libertarians, nationalists, and christian conservatives. the other has champagne socialists(elitists), real communists, criminals, illegal immigrants, and social outcasts. I'd say the first group has relatively strong cohesion, while the other does not (and has very few common interests).
They both have some cohesion for now because of fear of the other tribe. However, if one tribe should ever prove triumphant it would fall apart rather quickly. The term I've heard for this is, "the entropy of victory." If it comes to civil war, it doubt it will be just one. It will be a series of small and medium sized regional conflicts. Look at the history of Mexico between 1910-1920 for a good template. A lot of factions will get foreign assistance as well, further complicating the picture. Unlike Mexico, there's no guarantee that it will end in reunification and the establishment of a stable regime, however.
I appreciated your description of the gradual buildup of tensions and the abrupt ending of friendships or casting out of relatives. I think it has gotten much worse because we are arguing now primarily over the invasion of millions of people from other violent countries who are committing truly heinous acts against our people. I don’t think people would come to blows over past arguments over banal topics like tax policy (unless they’re borderline mentally ill). But when someone is supporting the side boasting that they are letting in millions of people who then are murdering and raping innocent citizens, I think it can get really bad really quickly.
It’s at an existential threat level and many people cannot remain coolly rational and talk things out. Also, you mention how there used to be a lot of racial violence a hundred years ago. I would put out that the clearing of the cities during the Great Migration and the “Great Society” was rife with constant often one-sided violence that was racial in nature. Now, with an apparent truce where Whites simply don’t enter “no go zones” or certain urban neighborhoods, there is less racial violence on the books. Yet, as we have seen in the last three decades, it’s always a short video of an arrest gone wrong away from turning into a riot.
He wasn't the one who said it originally, but Neil Howe (Fourth Turning guy) often mentions that democracy works best when there's nothing to talk about. Politics is boring, which is why most people don't like talking about it. Politics is about tax policy, as you said, or where to build a new park. It's not about answering fundamental questions like "What is a woman?" or whether America even deserves to honor and cherish its ancestors and history. When those questions become political, you're running out of road.
In that sense, I can agree with the Left that there's no way to tolerate a difference of opinion at that level. If someone thinks children should be allowed to switch genders at will, that you can allow millions to enter the country with no negative consequences, that America is a racist country that forever needs to pay for its sins, I can't share a country with those people. Obviously, I am now, but there's going to come a point where one side needs to prevail over the other. When we get to that point, well, I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
The size of America has served as a bulwark against the kind of thing you're seeing in Britain. But how much longer? The number of nice places to live are running out and immigration gradually drives the quality of life down. I see this truce rapidly falling apart in the next 10 - 15 years.
What if, instead of neighbor versus neighbor conflict, there was the pursuit of political goals that would improve our situation, for example: the regime has clearly tried to create an environment in which Trump could be sidelined by any means necessary. What if we were able to penalize members of the mainstream media for lying? Wouldn't that have a dampening effect if there was some disincentive for lying in public? At present, there's none.
Someone on Twitter looking for a place was joking about how there are only two places left in America: (1) someplace boring where there isn’t much to do and (2) a place that is in fast decline. With the rapid spreading of misery and rampant homelessness/crime, you can’t even pay your way out to a “good neighborhood” anymore. You just have to be a few miles away for raiders a la Mad Max to swoop in and get your stuff while you’re away at work and your kids are at school. Politics should be boring and attract people excited about zoning rules and convoluted regulations. Once you get the AOCs and above topics in the mix, everything escalates in rapid succession.
Diversity has never worked. Has never been anyone’s “strength,” and is used by the elites (who need to be the first to go) to keep we peasants in line.
Canada, say in 1990, didn't have many blacks. It still doesn't compared to the USA. Does anyone believe that made Canada worse off?
"It couldn't happen here" and "they were my neighbors yesterday but strung up my parents today" are also very common refrains in accounts from the Rwandan genocide between the Hutus and Tutsis. One woman who lived through it wrote a book about it and her experiences parallel near everything discussed in this post. She also mentioned the timeline that was years, then months, then weeks, days, hours.
It has happened before, it can happen here, it will happen here.
I hear a lot about it on substack and YouTube but I don't experience any of it at all in my day to day life. Maybe I'm insulated or maybe it's simmering below the surface but I don't see it.
Within the next ten years the powder keg of the west will start to burn. Maybe sooner. Maybe they keep the lid on longer. But it will be terrible and it will be a very dark time for many people.
This is 💩. We’re 🇺🇸 going to make it, but some of you aren’t and sense your Doom.
Bye 👋🏻 ☠️.
It’s like the Competency Crisis ™️
It’s Parasitism crisis; 😱Competence is avoiding Parasites 🦠. Can’t get good service? Bitch on Yelp.
🤣👋🏻☠️
When my husband was in university for his second degree, we lived in university family housing, row houses with brick pathed commons, where almost every nation was represented. At the time, Iraq was the big enemy, and my neighbour, who was Iranian, was quick to point out that she was from Iran, not Iraq. But more than that, she urged me to borrow her wedding video, and see how Iran had been, less than a decade earlier. No burqas, a very Western looking party with the same kind of clothes as i had had at mine. At the time, i was not very politically aware, and my thinking was that it didn't matter - she was my friend and a good neighbour. Now, 25 years on, i understand much better her concern, and the trauma that she had been through. I wish i could have been a better friend to her.
I'm guessing this was during Desert Storm?
It would be 97 or so...
OK we had another confrontation with Iraq during that time, so it makes sense. America always needs an external enemy.
The Patriot vs Loyalist analysis is correct.
This is normal human history and it’s America’s turn. These things happen from time to time.
The idea that strong ties don’t exist in the US is false.
A falsehood that exists online and among rootless cosmopolitans.
Simply not true.
But if you must Doom, then despair and Doom. Yes Mr. Brooks the Bobo paradise ends.
Yes Bourgeoisie the Elemental life and danger returns.
Here is Doom; those of us with ties have no ties but only chains to those that rule us, and abuse us with their courts and feral pets. Indeed their very imported exotic pets turn against them once they get to know them…
I don’t know about cosmopolitans, but everybody who has travelled, and even better lived or worked, in a country with actual close ties, and not totally atomized every-man-for-themselves, could tell that strong ties don’t exist in the US of 2024.
Maybe in some rural communities at best.
These ties aren’t found in airports, hotels or golf courses.
You have to grow roots to see the trees, never mind forests.
Communities with ties. I’m in such community now, but I’ve certainly lived in several parts of America. Any settled neighborhood or town absolutely has ties. That people “traveling” or moving constantly from place to place don’t see the ties is to be expected. Having none themselves how would they know? How could they know?
The assertion that Americans have no ties to each other , sorry I’ve seen the opposite too many times. Not to mention actual crisis instantly forges those ties where one is… I quite saw this AGAIN the other day during the local flash floods. I saw it in New York and New Jersey after 9/11.
You may quite see it in the many manifestations of the Cajun Navy or The American Red Cross after a disaster, or your local volunteer fire department or volunteer rescue squad. Local Charities, the local Catholic Charities… the ties that any Veteran will have with other Veterans or the military that instantly form, especially if you need help… local churches are always ties and a community, school and school boards…
I can go on.
I suspect the people who believe this bought into the system and haven’t had any of these things- off to college, off to corporate or government. Twill end in Florida in a retirement Potemkin village , I’m told when they go to the great golf course in the sky there’s a crematorium on site, no ceremony, no marker.
Never happened…
You won’t find these ties with a million frequent flyer miles, nor in college, nor in Corporations, nor in government outside of the military or emergency responders.
No roots? Then no trees or forests for you. But they exist.
No one, not least our author, would deny that close communities don't exist in America. That's not the argument. But where the vast majority of Americans live - suburbs/cities - clearly community is totally lacking. Anyone with experience living in other less developed countries understand this by comparison. American life is just too individualised, distracted, and devoid of social/religious ritual to bring others together. There's almost no common culture anywhere. And high school football games and small acts of charity do not a common culture make. I think what you are describing would've similarly felt real to many Russians living in smaller towns/neighborhoods on the eve of their revolution.
That’s nice, then they can die eating each other Spottswood, in a entirely fitting Donner Party ending, considering how they lived. Just ignore that I posted I saw the exact opposite happen in NYC and NJ after 9/11. I forgot to mention Hurricane Sandy.
I added other examples.
I think what you mean is probably you can’t get good restaurant service in a crisis? Or perhaps that is the crisis.
But don’t worry Spottswood, no one is coming to save you, unless you went to save them first.
This is 💩. We’re 🇺🇸 going to make it, but some of you aren’t and sense your Doom.
Bye 👋🏻 ☠️
> Just ignore that I posted I saw the exact opposite happen in NYC and NJ after 9/11. I forgot to mention Hurricane Sandy.
You saw what? Token solidarity gestures (in and outside the media)? Some people helping out after a disaster?
That's not what communal ties are...
No, I saw it with my own eyes.
I was there, present.
I was oddly out sick that day, as I had worked through the weekend and Monday (9/11 is Tuesday).
Nothing was token (that was a vile comment, BTW).
No, I saw it with my eyes, for months. Tragedy and challenge do bring people together.
I just saw it again the other day when the floods ripped through here on August 9, right by my house.
Totally unnecessary broadsides. Keep it civil. We're all friends here.
Its fine. I like long warred's comments. He's obviously not a defeatist.
Max R; that was in response to a person. That’s not a broadside.
Unless you mean a directed broadside. More like having said it twice before, the final time was blunt.
As to civil…. Heh.
Sure.
As to friends, this is the Internet.
Lots of reaction to this one. Will need to write up a follow-up.
What the Enemy has awoken in Britain and Ireland cannot be quenched. While the riots were disorganized, emotional and down right retarded in their methods (remain anonymous at all costs when active), the idea of just retribution from an extremely capable people with no other political recourse is very threatening and dangerous to an evil, global enemy that seems powerful and resolute but is in fact weak and desperate.
Hence the seemingly ridiculous reaction from the State. Locking up grandma and 12 year olds for “scary” Facebook posts doesn’t come from a strong, healthy, moral and stable government based in truth. On the contrary, this reaction comes from an entity that has consumed too much of its own supply and is therefore lying on a mattress dying but desperately and dangerously thrashing from time to time.
So be careful.
And this entity. This global deepstate. This Judeo-communist Clown World. Whatever best describes it. Will inevitably collapse under its own weight of all that is foul and anti-Christ.
Thus there is no need for a “government overthrow” just simple but thoughtful application of pressure here and there and it will topple.
In the meantime, prepare as if the White race is at war and the enemy desires nothing more than to destroy it. Because that is the reality. So act accordingly.
We Saw how quickly battle lines were formed with covid.
You call them Patriots vs Loyalists.
I call it Good vs Evil.
Good luck. This war began over 6,000 years ago.
One saving grace for the U.S. may be its federalized structure. The original idea of the framers was a confederation of (originally 13, now 50) largely independent republics with a relatively weak federal government handling only overarching concerns like foreign diplomacy and national defense, with each state being a “laboratory of democracy” in which different ideas could be tried as determined by the citizens of that state and the best/most functional ideas could then be adopted in other states. Rather than outright civil war you could have a “great sorting”
where people move to states that comport with their personal political and social views and don’t have to interact much with (or be ordered around by) people who feel very differently. This would require a substantial weakening of the federal government (in my view a good thing, no idea why people think that things that work in New York should also necessarily be forced on people in Alaska) but would allow for different views to coexist at the national level while maintaining harmony at the local level. At this point it is hard to imagine the federal government to allow itself to be weakened to the point that the founders intended but if things get hot, perhaps people will take another look at how things were originally intended to work in this country.
It could be akin to the breakup of India into India, Bangladesh and Pakistan. As you say, a great movement of people to be with those who share their views and values.
You do know that entire trainloads of people were massacred during all that, right? About a million deaths.
Don’t forget Burma as well.
And the 350 million guns in private hands.
Civil war implies two (or more) sides fighting for control of an entire nation, correct? Why not separatism? The incorrectly-named civil war of the 19th century did not “settle” this, as Americans claim. It’s all a question of enforcement.
Great and thought provoking essay!
I am German, grew up with the most horrible stories of the aftermath of a multicultural society (todays Czechia), travelled extensively in Nineties Russia and partly grew up in the US. So here is my prediction about the US:
1. The US is not a country in the usual sense of the word. It is a continent with still lot´s of free space. It afforded the luxury to let her NorthEast go wild again as there was so much more agricultural space further West. (It´s an untold story but look at historical maps of NH, Maine, NYS and todays pattern of settlement)
2. The "tribes" aren´t strong enough for a real civil war. There are exceptions - the Appalachians come to mind - but for the most part there is not enough cohesion for different groups to go to war effectively
3. Nothing is more terrible than chaos. I´ve seen it in the Nineties in Russia where there were gunshots every night in the very center of Moscow. In the end people will accept anything as long as there is physical security.
4. The US military and security establishment has lot´s of experience propping up military regimes in South America. In the end that will happen in the US as well. Naked violence condoned by a citizenry that prefers anything to chaos. Sadly that is the lot of multicultural societies. Chalmers Johnson has foreseen the end of the American republic and foretold it. Look up his books which he wrote 20 years ago.
I don't understand why you'd think the tribes are not strong enough for a civil war. There are basically two tribes, like Max argued; one has libertarians, nationalists, and christian conservatives. the other has champagne socialists(elitists), real communists, criminals, illegal immigrants, and social outcasts. I'd say the first group has relatively strong cohesion, while the other does not (and has very few common interests).
They both have some cohesion for now because of fear of the other tribe. However, if one tribe should ever prove triumphant it would fall apart rather quickly. The term I've heard for this is, "the entropy of victory." If it comes to civil war, it doubt it will be just one. It will be a series of small and medium sized regional conflicts. Look at the history of Mexico between 1910-1920 for a good template. A lot of factions will get foreign assistance as well, further complicating the picture. Unlike Mexico, there's no guarantee that it will end in reunification and the establishment of a stable regime, however.
Maybe instead of "strong" I should have used the word "cohesive" to describe what the tribes of the US are lacking.
I appreciated your description of the gradual buildup of tensions and the abrupt ending of friendships or casting out of relatives. I think it has gotten much worse because we are arguing now primarily over the invasion of millions of people from other violent countries who are committing truly heinous acts against our people. I don’t think people would come to blows over past arguments over banal topics like tax policy (unless they’re borderline mentally ill). But when someone is supporting the side boasting that they are letting in millions of people who then are murdering and raping innocent citizens, I think it can get really bad really quickly.
It’s at an existential threat level and many people cannot remain coolly rational and talk things out. Also, you mention how there used to be a lot of racial violence a hundred years ago. I would put out that the clearing of the cities during the Great Migration and the “Great Society” was rife with constant often one-sided violence that was racial in nature. Now, with an apparent truce where Whites simply don’t enter “no go zones” or certain urban neighborhoods, there is less racial violence on the books. Yet, as we have seen in the last three decades, it’s always a short video of an arrest gone wrong away from turning into a riot.
He wasn't the one who said it originally, but Neil Howe (Fourth Turning guy) often mentions that democracy works best when there's nothing to talk about. Politics is boring, which is why most people don't like talking about it. Politics is about tax policy, as you said, or where to build a new park. It's not about answering fundamental questions like "What is a woman?" or whether America even deserves to honor and cherish its ancestors and history. When those questions become political, you're running out of road.
In that sense, I can agree with the Left that there's no way to tolerate a difference of opinion at that level. If someone thinks children should be allowed to switch genders at will, that you can allow millions to enter the country with no negative consequences, that America is a racist country that forever needs to pay for its sins, I can't share a country with those people. Obviously, I am now, but there's going to come a point where one side needs to prevail over the other. When we get to that point, well, I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
The size of America has served as a bulwark against the kind of thing you're seeing in Britain. But how much longer? The number of nice places to live are running out and immigration gradually drives the quality of life down. I see this truce rapidly falling apart in the next 10 - 15 years.
What if, instead of neighbor versus neighbor conflict, there was the pursuit of political goals that would improve our situation, for example: the regime has clearly tried to create an environment in which Trump could be sidelined by any means necessary. What if we were able to penalize members of the mainstream media for lying? Wouldn't that have a dampening effect if there was some disincentive for lying in public? At present, there's none.
Someone on Twitter looking for a place was joking about how there are only two places left in America: (1) someplace boring where there isn’t much to do and (2) a place that is in fast decline. With the rapid spreading of misery and rampant homelessness/crime, you can’t even pay your way out to a “good neighborhood” anymore. You just have to be a few miles away for raiders a la Mad Max to swoop in and get your stuff while you’re away at work and your kids are at school. Politics should be boring and attract people excited about zoning rules and convoluted regulations. Once you get the AOCs and above topics in the mix, everything escalates in rapid succession.