I have come across nurses like this and what people don't realize is most of their vitriol is because they're "non-Christian" and this is all an outgrowth of their "religion." They are here to do you harm on purpose. Just my experience. Also, never leave your loved-one alone in the hospital. Have someone there 24/7. Especially with elderly people. I saw first-hand with my mother what "care" they give. You need to look at it esoterically. There is a reason why the medical profession has changed.
As an overwhelmingly female dominated profession, it’s going to reflect the average quality of a society’s females. And it does.
If you want to correct its systemic problems, you’re going to have to (a) restore its previous gender balance; (b) change the average quality of your society’s females; (c) seize the credentialing and educational infrastructure, ruthlessly purge the unprofessional even if it costs you 30%+, and harshly filter the incoming stream then give enforced expectations.
C is the easiest, and it can happen via distrust leading to systems that end-run hospitals and make conformity with better standards a requirement for anyone who wants a Plan B career option. You do NOT need a majority; an uncompromising 15% should do nicely.
Our family had a lot of contact with the healthcare system during the height of the COVID hysteria. Without getting too personal, the treatment was cruel and irrelevant. We even spotted in our child’s medical records that “parents are unvaccinated”, as if they mattered to anything. Our estimate was that maybe half of nurses were politicized, but that can be enough to cause problems.
I think that the cause of this is that nurses see themselves as a caring profession, so that makes them susceptible to propaganda that plays into that self-image.
There is also the somewhat tenuous nature of their professional status creating tension, sort of like teachers. My wife liked the more old school working class nurses than the younger breed, as there was less pretence and more competence.
While American nurses have excellent pay compared to their international counterparts, other people with 4-year degrees often make more. And doctor is more prestigious than nurse. The pay/status gap probably helps a lot. Plus since employee compensation is a big part of "why Americans pay more for health care with worse results", it isn't going to get better for them.
I think it is mainly a function of so many women being in the same profession, working long hours, and having high pay and reputation. I saw some of the same toxic female behavior in a job where I worked customer service. Even there just being two of them, they reinforced one another's constant complaining, and created the feeling that weighed on everyone "nothing is fair, customers are annoying and needy," and so on. With nursing there are more women, they work longer shifts, and they put up with genuinely frustrating situations, so the "sisterhood" is going to be on high alert.
I had a VA nurse in a class I taught. It was during covid. She was told she would be fired because she would not get the covid "vax". The other nurses TORTURED her. Put garbage in her coffee mug, screamed at her, refused to assist in critical situations. She called me a few weeks after the class in tears with even more horror stories of what the hospital was forcing her to do (basically kill people with certain "medicines." ) I knew an ER nurse years ago who told me stories of how the nurses would share embarrassing information about patients. She did it too. That seems almost quaint now.
I wonder if the issue partly is that nurses are subordinate to the authority of doctors. I’ve known enough nurses to know that they sometimes have a low opinion of doctors, but there is probably also jealousy of that authority that causes them to have that level of contempt. Of course, doctors have become more and more woke over time, but my impression is that they are still more objective.
I worked in senior living for five years. It was eye-opening and wrecked any rose-colored view I had about healthcare workers. Dysfunction and chaos are the norm in so many of their personal lives. Professional caregiving was a cope, or an offset of bad behavior elsewhere. Examples of extreme behavior that have splashed the front pages lately are no surprise.
I have come across nurses like this and what people don't realize is most of their vitriol is because they're "non-Christian" and this is all an outgrowth of their "religion." They are here to do you harm on purpose. Just my experience. Also, never leave your loved-one alone in the hospital. Have someone there 24/7. Especially with elderly people. I saw first-hand with my mother what "care" they give. You need to look at it esoterically. There is a reason why the medical profession has changed.
As an overwhelmingly female dominated profession, it’s going to reflect the average quality of a society’s females. And it does.
If you want to correct its systemic problems, you’re going to have to (a) restore its previous gender balance; (b) change the average quality of your society’s females; (c) seize the credentialing and educational infrastructure, ruthlessly purge the unprofessional even if it costs you 30%+, and harshly filter the incoming stream then give enforced expectations.
C is the easiest, and it can happen via distrust leading to systems that end-run hospitals and make conformity with better standards a requirement for anyone who wants a Plan B career option. You do NOT need a majority; an uncompromising 15% should do nicely.
Our family had a lot of contact with the healthcare system during the height of the COVID hysteria. Without getting too personal, the treatment was cruel and irrelevant. We even spotted in our child’s medical records that “parents are unvaccinated”, as if they mattered to anything. Our estimate was that maybe half of nurses were politicized, but that can be enough to cause problems.
I think that the cause of this is that nurses see themselves as a caring profession, so that makes them susceptible to propaganda that plays into that self-image.
There is also the somewhat tenuous nature of their professional status creating tension, sort of like teachers. My wife liked the more old school working class nurses than the younger breed, as there was less pretence and more competence.
While American nurses have excellent pay compared to their international counterparts, other people with 4-year degrees often make more. And doctor is more prestigious than nurse. The pay/status gap probably helps a lot. Plus since employee compensation is a big part of "why Americans pay more for health care with worse results", it isn't going to get better for them.
I think it is mainly a function of so many women being in the same profession, working long hours, and having high pay and reputation. I saw some of the same toxic female behavior in a job where I worked customer service. Even there just being two of them, they reinforced one another's constant complaining, and created the feeling that weighed on everyone "nothing is fair, customers are annoying and needy," and so on. With nursing there are more women, they work longer shifts, and they put up with genuinely frustrating situations, so the "sisterhood" is going to be on high alert.
I had a VA nurse in a class I taught. It was during covid. She was told she would be fired because she would not get the covid "vax". The other nurses TORTURED her. Put garbage in her coffee mug, screamed at her, refused to assist in critical situations. She called me a few weeks after the class in tears with even more horror stories of what the hospital was forcing her to do (basically kill people with certain "medicines." ) I knew an ER nurse years ago who told me stories of how the nurses would share embarrassing information about patients. She did it too. That seems almost quaint now.
I wonder if the issue partly is that nurses are subordinate to the authority of doctors. I’ve known enough nurses to know that they sometimes have a low opinion of doctors, but there is probably also jealousy of that authority that causes them to have that level of contempt. Of course, doctors have become more and more woke over time, but my impression is that they are still more objective.
I worked in senior living for five years. It was eye-opening and wrecked any rose-colored view I had about healthcare workers. Dysfunction and chaos are the norm in so many of their personal lives. Professional caregiving was a cope, or an offset of bad behavior elsewhere. Examples of extreme behavior that have splashed the front pages lately are no surprise.