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Elmbutcher's avatar

WE got better things to worry about

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Pius's avatar

That Africans need to be sent out of North America was true when Jefferson was alive, is true now, and always will be true. The claims of morals and logistics don’t change it.

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mike's avatar

I just stay away from them. If you live near them there are better options to move to that will pay off over time. Same with jobs. Don't have black friends either; complete waste of time. The solution is staring you in the face. Do not tip black people and don't go to their businesses, that way they will not come close to where you live. They do the same to everyone else. It's not a bad thing just because your middle school teacher said it was.

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Marshall Burnham's avatar

Fascinating article with a lot of truth and also useful points, however the “coming civil war” talk just takes me out of the whole arc of an otherwise measured and thoughtful polemic.

The modern American ethos IS the melting pot BS mumbo jumbo. We can’t even deport ACTUAL illegal immigrants without judges helping them sneak out.

We believe the same country is going to engage in armed conflict with Americans who have “been here” for 100s of years (most Blacks have ancestry going farther than over 100 million Whites… Ellis Island, etc.)

As you pointed out, even in the South, the region of the country with the most Blacks AND the longest history of racial violence (and the actual civil war…) the communities are completely intertwined to a point that any military conflagration would be totally FUBAR.

The majority of Americans have literally zero interest in a race war, a civil war, remigration, any of that. The majority of Americans see themselves as post-racial.

Shiloh Hendrix would be seen as “less American” than an immigrant who wraps themself in the flag and yaps about the Founders or something. Vivek? lol. Modern American is just too deracinated and entertained for a civil war. At most there will be a couple Waco moments. Ruby Ridge had a racial component to it, lest we forget the reasoning for the FBI going up there. ‘Nuff said.

But no seriously I appreciate the comprehensive nature of your article, the brute force honesty, and even the equanimity of some the points (not going full extermination talk), however I think we need to start from the place of “there is no civil war coming”. We can leave that talk to Whatifalthist and his spirit demons

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ThePossum's avatar

There are fewer and fewer people who are able to buy their way out of conflict zones. Simultaneously there is more and more infiltration of formerly stable communities by those less stable whether imported or home grown. Anyone who lives within 75 miles of a Dem-run city of any size is in mortal danger from crime while also being subjected to a certain degree of everyday mayhem. And while I agree that some sort of armed civil conflict is unlikely, the asymmetric nature of the degradation will reach a tipping point and we can expect to live in a modern-day Tombstone AZ where everyone is armed.

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Max Remington's avatar

Visiting London was eye-opening. Seeing White people living alongside Indians and Muslims was kind of jarring, in the sense that I thought that if it ever popped off, those Whites were probably screwed. I also wondered what their day-to-day interactions were really like, or whether they interacted at all. It made me feel a bit safer in America, since we weren't all packed into a crowded metropolis, but I also do wonder if we'll end up like Britain, with everyone living among everyone. It sounds nice until you consider the implications of it.

"Modern-day Tombstone AZ where everyone is armed." That's an interesting way of putting it. There are varying degrees of armed conflict, of course, and I call the coming conflict "civil war" entirely for the sake of simplicity. In an academic sense, it won't be, and The Troubles of Northern Ireland weren't, either. But there will be violence. It's unavoidable.

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Max Remington's avatar

If you haven't already, read up on David Betz' thesis. He shows how civil war, a form of it, is absolutely possible even in our society. It doesn't need to go full-blown kinetic. That's the whole point, in fact. Just think of the coming civil war as an extended period where violence, even that motivated by politics, race, and religion, is more acceptable than before.

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Marshall Burnham's avatar

I checked it out; he strikes me as an academic who is selling a book that comes with a thesis that was quite compelling pre-Trump 2.0 being a serious possibility.

Lest we forget Whatifalthist had that whole "We're going to have a Civil War tomorrow" arc, and we see how much of a "stable genius" he is.

But yeah, Betz has some okay points but even he will readily admit he is an academic selling books first and foremost.

There's no money in him admitting, "The US is way too deracinated at this point to have anything like a modern Civil War... and the entire ruling class are Thaddeus Stevens anyway. There is no Robert E. Lee anymore."

To put a fine point on it, last year, the current Trump-appointed Director of the FBI took his oath over the Bhagavad Gita.

That is the "NON-WOKE" government's appointee.

There is no Civil War coming where the sides are evenly matched. The Dissidents will be suppressed swiftly EVEN BY THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE, etc.

Unless we think that a JD (father of "Vivek") Vance administration will be secretly on the side of the non-woke? Come on

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Max Remington's avatar

But Betz even says we're not going to have a modern Civil War where the sides are evenly matched. He specifically makes this point in his interviews, though I confess he may not have made it as clearly in his essays.

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Marshall Burnham's avatar

Fair enough. Respect to you for indulging my polemics here in the comments. Cheers!

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Marshall Burnham's avatar

Okay thanks, will check it out!

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Belte's avatar

We had a family friend who was liberal and got “high on her own supply” of DEI mantras. She moved her family from an affluent white suburb to a seemingly stable black urban neighborhood. They lasted exactly three months. At the end, she had to apologize for leaving a party early because she wanted to be home before sundown as there have been “some incidents.” They moved out of state.

There’s always an easy way and a hard way for life lessons. She chose the hard way.

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Max Remington's avatar

See, I can almost admire that because she put her money where her mouth was. Most liberals don't do that.

The only question is, what did she learn from the experience?

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Belte's avatar

That’s the thing. She didn’t verbalize a “coming to the light” experience. She seemed embarrassed more than anything to admit that indeed this neighborhood was as dangerous as her political opponents would claim it to be. It was almost like she was betraying her cause by admitting she didn’t want to get jumped at night as other neighbors seem to have been. I think it just taught her that she needs enough money to flee to greener and safer pastures just as you lay out in your article.

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Max Remington's avatar

Greener and safer pastures from which she can admire Blacks and immigrants from afar. Just like watching wild animals from behind the safety of a barrier at the zoo.

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Belte's avatar

I remember a mentoring situation in which I was helping some inner city youth over the course of about a year. I’ll never forget when I told one of the black students that he couldn’t catcall a young female worker when she passed by. He said, “Watch my older brotha catch you alone” deadpan like he was signing my death warrant matter-of-fact. From a distance, he might have seemed fun and energetic but close up that famous “vibrancy”was more menacing than exciting.

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Max Remington's avatar

The reflexivity with which they resorts to threats and violence is alarming. Most Americans are totally numb to it and not just because they're not familiar with it. It's because they've been taught to accept it. If a White kid said that to them, they wouldn't hesitate to escalate it up the chain to be handled.

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Peter from Oz's avatar

And there's your answer. White people have lost their strength of character. This makes them open to such threats of violence.

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bvd9701's avatar

Remigration of blacks back to Africa is the only solution.

Normalize saying this out loud and discussing it with others.

This policy is the only logical, rational and ultimately, compassionate solution that will prevent bloodshed.

Multiculturalism has been an abysmal failure in every aspect. We must end it once and for all.

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Pius's avatar

All nonwhites. Our people are special and need a homeland. We need a habitat to work out our own culture and problems among our own people. This has to be one of the first priorities for a new state

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bvd9701's avatar

I agree entirely.

Especially considering the naked aggression and malevolent intentions that have been freely shown to White People the instant browns and blacks gained in population numbers.

To be blunt, these cretins intend to MURDER all White People…and they’re not at all shy about expressing these psychotic sentiments.

The violence, the depravity, the parasitism and the vulgarity imported into our beleaguered nation has been nothing but detrimental to White wellbeing…and at an unsustainable financial cost.

White People have fallen to a mere 6~8% of the global population. This is a dire crisis for our race…indeed the entire human race.

We White People must be 💯% FREED FROM the parasites whose endless material needs compel us through ever more punitive levels of taxation to reduce our standard of living and family size. Three and four child families must again become the norm.

We must focus on our own health, nurturing, maintenance and prosperity…and entirely abandon these corrosive leftist notions of pathological altruism toward any stranger with a dark complexion, while simultaneously ignoring the needs of our fellow Whites with maximum contempt.

We tried saving the world…and the depraved 3rd world denizens don’t want to be saved. They want only to pilfer, demolish and ungratefully demand yet more. They are the destroyers of civilizations.

Enough is enough. The United States is a nation like any other with obligations to care for OUR OWN. We are not the dumping ground for every foreign misfit, malcontent, miscreant, criminal and lunatic.

America IS the land of opportunity…but exclusively for American citizens who are the inheritors of generations of nation-building.

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Sim1776's avatar

I support this as well as financial incentives to sweeten the pot. The Swedes are starting this with their migrants. Hopefully the results are positive.

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