"This does show White Liberals are the least racist people in America"
This is my only complaint here, Max. Being racist doesn't just mean favoring your own race; it means favoring people based on race (even if your favoritism is against your own.) So it is the absolute value (not the sign) of in/out group preference that matters. "Not racist" would be a score of 0, not -100. On that basis, the "non-liberal whites" category is actually the least racist.
I think there will be limits to the levels of mixing. While Brazil has a lot of white people with somewhat African features, it still has a lot of purely black or white people. I’m not an expert, but a lot of the black-white mixing may be a product of men with black or mulatto mistresses, which is now less encouraged, and the fact that blacks were the only non-white option in town. You may actually see less black-white mixes in a more multicultural society.
Another important point is that the descendants of mixed race people will likely go in one direction or the other, because in most cases they won’t marry other mixed race people. A person who is 1/4 or 1/8 Asian or Indian is likely to be considered basically white.
The cases of Latinos and Asians in the US are pretty interesting. It seems that the more capable Latinos are tending to follow the path of ethnic Catholics or white Evangelicals and become more conservative over time. Others, however, just settle into the lower class.
I think the answers you show from Asians in part reflect them simply assimilating into the PMC. At the same time, I can understand that it would be alienating to turn on the TV and only rarely see people who look like you. Also, most white people aren’t going to develop much interest or understanding of Asian culture, and those that do are often oddballs. I don’t see an easy answer to that one.
The trend of young white males becoming more right wing is likely in large part to them noticing how they are treated by institutions and how other races feel about them. Boomers have the luxury of being oblivious, now that they are out of the educational system and are leaving the workforce. So I do see more conflict in the future, although I expect it to stay somewhat hidden for the time being given the legal penalties applicable to white people who express racial resentment.
Incidentally you can think of Kamala and Justin Trudeau as being equivalent: empty headed Montreal kids (Trudeau being elite and Harris being pretty posh upper middle class). Harris’ “joy” thing seems to be trying to engineer the same Trudeau craze from his early days.
Pierre Poiliviere is more of a JD Vance, an opportunistic Millennial with an immigrant wife. Vance has in interesting intellectual streak, though, and Poiliiviere is more of a lifetime partisan politician who sniffed where the wind was blowing.
I don’t know any Canadian 18-24 year olds, so I can’t say if they are right wing on all issues. But the Conservative leader is a kind of populist lite, more so in tone than specific policies. He hopped on board the Freedom Convoy support when he saw it had traction and it took him to leadership. But he should get a massive mandate and we’ll see what he does with it.
Basically Canada is a place where there is a stultifying Central Canadian bureaucratic class lording it over the rest of us and bleeding the country dry. Trudeau is a woke libtard who has had his way for 9 years with disastrous results: no personal income growth, falling further behind the US economically, chronic criminals out on bail raising havoc. The results are undeniably bad and the consensus is that Canada is broken. Basically imagine that Kamala got elected and actually implemented her agenda for 9 years with no opposition.
The final straw is that they basically allowed runaway immigration in an attempt to subsidize colleges and satisfy minimum wage employers. So young people can’t get part-time jobs, rent has doubled in 10 years and housing prices are insane. If you are a young person without family help and a normal job, you will never be able to support a family or obtain reasonable real estate - the numbers don’t add up.
More speculatively I am guessing that young people are steamed about two years of their lives being robbed from them. Furthermore the schools are very woke (native land acknowledgements, BLM propaganda) and probably some have had enough.
So basically if the left screws up long enough and badly enough, people will turn to the right to clean things up. Basically a hard times create hard men situation.
Brazil is a country we should all try to understand better, but it’s hard because of language and distance. I’ve visited 40 countries but never got to Brazil. Incidentally the Llosa novel The War of the End of the World is about an apocalyptic historical war in Brazil and I lost sleep because I was so fascinated and read it so late.
I understand that the older Asians were anti-communist and often Christian. The new ones are often Chinese and secular. Secularism codes against conservatism in our society.
Statistics show Gen Z as being on the left on issues, but I think they may be radicalized by events and it’s unpredictable what may happen. Here in Canada the young are going to vote Conservative in the next federal election and 18-24 year olds more so than their immediate elders. That’s what happens when it is literally impossible to start your life and leftists are clearly to blame. And who knows if they’ll blame the left for Covid restrictions ruining their childhoods.
One final point is that young people today are less burdened by history. So the fact their parents historically voted one way won’t necessarily be a strong influence. (The same factor can work against the right, of course.)
Brazil is definitely on my bucket list. There's a chance I may be sent on assignment to Brazil as early as next year, but that's secret agent stuff, so I can't say for sure!
I do remember in my younger years Asians of my generation being more conservative. Back in the 2000s, there was a dating show called "Next" on MTV. I remember one contestant was an Asian woman who passed on a guy when she discovered he didn't like George W. Bush. What a different time that was, when it was totally safe to out yourself as a Republican and to refuse to date someone for not being on the same side!
I'm amazed by Gen. Z in Canada shifting right. Conditions are far worse in the UK, but Gen. Z there is overwhelmingly left-wing. It's more understandable that Gen. Z in the U.S. is overwhelmingly left-wing, since things aren't quite as bad. Don't know about Oceania, but I'd like to know what it is about Canada that makes them an outlier. They seem more like France and Germany.
A lot of the reactions to KaiserBauch's videos spoke of how we can't and shouldn't overlay America's racial history upon Brazil's. The two countries' histories are quite divergent. Ironically, America's racial history looks less bad by comparison. I'm being facetious, of course, but Brazil's multiculturalism was bought with blood and a very, VERY, high body count.
The pattern I've seen in America is that most mixed-race Americans identify as "both" in public, but on official paperwork, they tend to identify as their non-White side, because there are benefits to doing so. Black and White mixed people obviously identify primarily as Black, due to stronger racial consciousness as well as benefits to doing so. Like I said, I'm still working my way through Eric Kaufmann's book, but his vision of the future depends significantly on identifying as White becoming less taboo for mixed-race people.
Latinos are trending along White lines, though they're more evenly divided politically with still a decisive leftward tilt. It's going to be interesting to see if they remain divided like that post-Fourth Turning, or they shift the other direction.
I didn't get too deep into it for the sake of time and so it doesn't come off like I'm raging on Asians, but you're correct. Asians are quite the conformist type, no matter what they tell themselves in the mirror. When the U.S. was a more conservative society, Asians had a more rightward bent. Now that the U.S. is a far-left society, Asians have conformed accordingly. It makes you wonder: if America shifts in a more rightward direction, will they conform accordingly, once again?
Also worth noting that Gen. Z is bit more prudish, except they're also very leftist. It makes you wonder what happens when our values become conventional again, as Neil Howe puts it.
I can understand the lack of representation in media can be alienating. However, what do Asians think about the over-representation of Blacks in media? Is that problematic for them? And there are also limits to developing interest or understanding of any foreign culture because people are people. Again, I understand it can feel alienating, but Asians shouldn't resent Whites or anyone else for it. It's not like Asians are interested in anyone else's culture to the degree they demand of Whites or other races.
As a hopeful pessimist, I think Neil Howe is right - we'll see a more cooperative society based on conventional values post-Fourth Turning. With that will come greater balance in race relations. At the same time, every society needs an "other" of some sort. Right now, the closest thing to an other we have is, ironically, Whites. I feel like post-Fourth Turning, it'll become Blacks again, due to the role they'll inevitably play in the civil war/revolution to come, but also because of everything they've done as a collective to balkanize themselves.
"This does show White Liberals are the least racist people in America"
This is my only complaint here, Max. Being racist doesn't just mean favoring your own race; it means favoring people based on race (even if your favoritism is against your own.) So it is the absolute value (not the sign) of in/out group preference that matters. "Not racist" would be a score of 0, not -100. On that basis, the "non-liberal whites" category is actually the least racist.
What I meant to say is that White Liberals harbor the least amount of hostility towards other races.
But yes, White Liberals are actually quite racist, they just don't realize it.
I think there will be limits to the levels of mixing. While Brazil has a lot of white people with somewhat African features, it still has a lot of purely black or white people. I’m not an expert, but a lot of the black-white mixing may be a product of men with black or mulatto mistresses, which is now less encouraged, and the fact that blacks were the only non-white option in town. You may actually see less black-white mixes in a more multicultural society.
Another important point is that the descendants of mixed race people will likely go in one direction or the other, because in most cases they won’t marry other mixed race people. A person who is 1/4 or 1/8 Asian or Indian is likely to be considered basically white.
The cases of Latinos and Asians in the US are pretty interesting. It seems that the more capable Latinos are tending to follow the path of ethnic Catholics or white Evangelicals and become more conservative over time. Others, however, just settle into the lower class.
I think the answers you show from Asians in part reflect them simply assimilating into the PMC. At the same time, I can understand that it would be alienating to turn on the TV and only rarely see people who look like you. Also, most white people aren’t going to develop much interest or understanding of Asian culture, and those that do are often oddballs. I don’t see an easy answer to that one.
The trend of young white males becoming more right wing is likely in large part to them noticing how they are treated by institutions and how other races feel about them. Boomers have the luxury of being oblivious, now that they are out of the educational system and are leaving the workforce. So I do see more conflict in the future, although I expect it to stay somewhat hidden for the time being given the legal penalties applicable to white people who express racial resentment.
Incidentally you can think of Kamala and Justin Trudeau as being equivalent: empty headed Montreal kids (Trudeau being elite and Harris being pretty posh upper middle class). Harris’ “joy” thing seems to be trying to engineer the same Trudeau craze from his early days.
Pierre Poiliviere is more of a JD Vance, an opportunistic Millennial with an immigrant wife. Vance has in interesting intellectual streak, though, and Poiliiviere is more of a lifetime partisan politician who sniffed where the wind was blowing.
I don’t know any Canadian 18-24 year olds, so I can’t say if they are right wing on all issues. But the Conservative leader is a kind of populist lite, more so in tone than specific policies. He hopped on board the Freedom Convoy support when he saw it had traction and it took him to leadership. But he should get a massive mandate and we’ll see what he does with it.
Basically Canada is a place where there is a stultifying Central Canadian bureaucratic class lording it over the rest of us and bleeding the country dry. Trudeau is a woke libtard who has had his way for 9 years with disastrous results: no personal income growth, falling further behind the US economically, chronic criminals out on bail raising havoc. The results are undeniably bad and the consensus is that Canada is broken. Basically imagine that Kamala got elected and actually implemented her agenda for 9 years with no opposition.
The final straw is that they basically allowed runaway immigration in an attempt to subsidize colleges and satisfy minimum wage employers. So young people can’t get part-time jobs, rent has doubled in 10 years and housing prices are insane. If you are a young person without family help and a normal job, you will never be able to support a family or obtain reasonable real estate - the numbers don’t add up.
More speculatively I am guessing that young people are steamed about two years of their lives being robbed from them. Furthermore the schools are very woke (native land acknowledgements, BLM propaganda) and probably some have had enough.
So basically if the left screws up long enough and badly enough, people will turn to the right to clean things up. Basically a hard times create hard men situation.
Brazil is a country we should all try to understand better, but it’s hard because of language and distance. I’ve visited 40 countries but never got to Brazil. Incidentally the Llosa novel The War of the End of the World is about an apocalyptic historical war in Brazil and I lost sleep because I was so fascinated and read it so late.
I understand that the older Asians were anti-communist and often Christian. The new ones are often Chinese and secular. Secularism codes against conservatism in our society.
Statistics show Gen Z as being on the left on issues, but I think they may be radicalized by events and it’s unpredictable what may happen. Here in Canada the young are going to vote Conservative in the next federal election and 18-24 year olds more so than their immediate elders. That’s what happens when it is literally impossible to start your life and leftists are clearly to blame. And who knows if they’ll blame the left for Covid restrictions ruining their childhoods.
One final point is that young people today are less burdened by history. So the fact their parents historically voted one way won’t necessarily be a strong influence. (The same factor can work against the right, of course.)
Brazil is definitely on my bucket list. There's a chance I may be sent on assignment to Brazil as early as next year, but that's secret agent stuff, so I can't say for sure!
I do remember in my younger years Asians of my generation being more conservative. Back in the 2000s, there was a dating show called "Next" on MTV. I remember one contestant was an Asian woman who passed on a guy when she discovered he didn't like George W. Bush. What a different time that was, when it was totally safe to out yourself as a Republican and to refuse to date someone for not being on the same side!
I'm amazed by Gen. Z in Canada shifting right. Conditions are far worse in the UK, but Gen. Z there is overwhelmingly left-wing. It's more understandable that Gen. Z in the U.S. is overwhelmingly left-wing, since things aren't quite as bad. Don't know about Oceania, but I'd like to know what it is about Canada that makes them an outlier. They seem more like France and Germany.
A lot of the reactions to KaiserBauch's videos spoke of how we can't and shouldn't overlay America's racial history upon Brazil's. The two countries' histories are quite divergent. Ironically, America's racial history looks less bad by comparison. I'm being facetious, of course, but Brazil's multiculturalism was bought with blood and a very, VERY, high body count.
The pattern I've seen in America is that most mixed-race Americans identify as "both" in public, but on official paperwork, they tend to identify as their non-White side, because there are benefits to doing so. Black and White mixed people obviously identify primarily as Black, due to stronger racial consciousness as well as benefits to doing so. Like I said, I'm still working my way through Eric Kaufmann's book, but his vision of the future depends significantly on identifying as White becoming less taboo for mixed-race people.
Latinos are trending along White lines, though they're more evenly divided politically with still a decisive leftward tilt. It's going to be interesting to see if they remain divided like that post-Fourth Turning, or they shift the other direction.
I didn't get too deep into it for the sake of time and so it doesn't come off like I'm raging on Asians, but you're correct. Asians are quite the conformist type, no matter what they tell themselves in the mirror. When the U.S. was a more conservative society, Asians had a more rightward bent. Now that the U.S. is a far-left society, Asians have conformed accordingly. It makes you wonder: if America shifts in a more rightward direction, will they conform accordingly, once again?
Also worth noting that Gen. Z is bit more prudish, except they're also very leftist. It makes you wonder what happens when our values become conventional again, as Neil Howe puts it.
I can understand the lack of representation in media can be alienating. However, what do Asians think about the over-representation of Blacks in media? Is that problematic for them? And there are also limits to developing interest or understanding of any foreign culture because people are people. Again, I understand it can feel alienating, but Asians shouldn't resent Whites or anyone else for it. It's not like Asians are interested in anyone else's culture to the degree they demand of Whites or other races.
As a hopeful pessimist, I think Neil Howe is right - we'll see a more cooperative society based on conventional values post-Fourth Turning. With that will come greater balance in race relations. At the same time, every society needs an "other" of some sort. Right now, the closest thing to an other we have is, ironically, Whites. I feel like post-Fourth Turning, it'll become Blacks again, due to the role they'll inevitably play in the civil war/revolution to come, but also because of everything they've done as a collective to balkanize themselves.