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Since I read Submission, I've also believed France will be the first Western nation to succumb to civil war. People talk about "France" as if it's some longstanding institution like "England". It's not. France is currently on it's "5th Republic". You know what happened to the first 4?

1st: 15 years. Nonstop war. Dictatorship: Napoleon.

2nd: 4 years. Franco-Prussian War. Dictatorship: Napoleon, first one's nephew.

3rd: 60 years. WWII: occupying military dictatorship.

4th: 12 years. Algerian war / civil war. De Gaulle's Constitution.

5th: 70 years but starting to fray.

Bottom line, unlike the English, the French have a very poor track record with representative democracy.

French soldier: "I must point out that this is my biggest disagreement with the generals: they think that civil war must be avoided."

Michel Houllebecq's novel Submission (which I highly recommend) features a Left-Islamist alliance forming to prevent the far-right from coming to power. It sounded absurd in 2016. Less absurd now. In fact, it began last weekend: Menelchon is an open antisemite and effectively pro-Hamas.

Immigration is the lynchpin here because it allies the Left's border-are-racist people with Macron's chamber-of-commerce centrists and Les Republicains country-club blue-bloods. All 3 of them benefit economically or politically from unchecked immigration, while the French working class pays the price.

Love the Turkish statement: "Following the unpleasant incident that took place in Kayseri, provocative actions were carried out against Syrians last night". Translation: "the refugee who raped a teenager was bad, but y'all are worse for noticing." I wonder if this sort of thing will cause Erdogan to rethink his gradual undoing of Ataturk's secularization policies?

Black man who's playing booming loud music from his car to cop: “No disrespect, but I feel like I’m doing my thing.” This is Mill's "maximal individual autonomy" premise in real life. We can't stop someone who is obviously disturbing hundreds of neighbors because... he has a right to "do his thing".

This happened 2 days ago in my neck of the woods: https://sfstandard.com/2024/06/23/bay-bridge-sideshow-ends-with-fireworks-noise-and-no-arrests/ Hundreds of people and 100+ cars illegally closed the San Francisco Bay Bridge at 1 AM and to do donuts. This is the easiest environment in the world to crack down on -- IT'S A BRIDGE, there are only 2 ways off! Put a line of cop cars and a hundred riot police at each end and start walking. Arrest every human being. Impound and tow every vehicle. We won't do it. I think there were 4 arrests.

After all, they were just "doing their thing".

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The French election results are a disappointment for the right only compared to expectations. The fact that Le Pen is even a possible victor would have been unthinkable a few years ago. A swing of just a few points would push her over. Political parties knocking on the door usually get to victory in the end.

There is a French meme “Nicolas, 30 ans” that shows a hard pressed young man being taxed on the one hand to support wealthy boomers and on the other hand the entitled migrant. The centre-right continues to exist in Europe with the support of smug boomers, but the young on the right see no point in them.

So far it’s mainly young males who have moved right. I wouldn’t be shocked to see the women follow at some point, although they tend to be slower to move than males.

There is a very bitter tone to today’s politics throughout the West, including Canada where I live. With an aging society, high government debt, stringent environmental policies, and high migration, the economy has become a zero sum game. Zero sum games are inherently bitter and high conflict.

The ultimate problem is that we can’t offer everything to everyone, and the policies of the left just make things worse. So you get disappointed expectations and a lot of finger pointing.

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