Nobody likes mass shootings, but we need to understand they happen not just because America has lots of guns, but because we have lots of angry, violent people of all races.
Not to beat a dead horse but wasn’t Biden as a senator responsible for the stupid Gun Free Zones in America ? There used to be gun safety and shooting classes in American schools..As a farm kid growing up everyone had a gun rack hanging in their pickup trucks..My point is America and Americans have decided that safety is more important then liberty and freedom but that mindset has brought us to where we are today in our culture.
Can’t discount the fact that with the prevalence of divorce or unwed mothers rearing their children, many women have not been exposed to men on a daily basis.
I agree but the security guard at the Parkland School was armed and did nothing to stop the shooter. Compare the TX School shooting in Uvalde with dozens of heavily armed officers who did nothing to stop the ongoing massacre and the two TN officers who entered and killed the Christian School shooter immediately. Like so many things in life, it comes down to whether a person will actually act to make an effective deterrent even when armed. I think the police body cam of the TN cops methodically entering and gunning down the shooter probably was more effective in stopping subsequent ones than anything else.
I'm reminded of the song "Baby It's Cold Outside" It got a bad wrap a few years ago because the line "what's in the drink" convinced our collective pearl clutchers that he was trying to roofie her. Which speaks wonders about their view of the world -- all men who want to get a pretty girl are willing to drug her and rape her to do it -- despite the overwhelming evidence that this is not only not true but has been declining for centuries thanks to Christian anthropology that asserts universal human rights for both men and women. However... I digress.
Listen to the girl in that song:
"My mother will start to worry"
"My father will be pacing the floor"
"The neighbors might think"
"My sister will be suspicious"
"My brother will be there at the door"
"My maiden aunt's mind is vicious"
Every one of these lines is a reference to social or familial expectations: my mother expects me to be a good girl; I don't want to set a bad example for my sister; my nosy neighbor will ruin my reputation. Far from being oppressive, this girl's family and culture are giving her great tools to push back against the sexual advances of a man. (I always loved that the one she pegs as potentially violent isn't her father but the auntie-matriarch of the family. How J.D. Vancey.)
Move that girl to an apartment in Brooklyn or Los Angeles or Chicago with a man she met on Tindr or at a bar that night and none of those objections work anymore. Maybe 1950's culture really was oppressive for women, but it was also useful to them.
"All this is to say that young women don’t take their personal safety as seriously as their rhetoric suggests."
Your point is well taken. I would add:
I think they take their safety, and in general themselves, very seriously. They just don't take responsibility for their safety or actions. And why would they? In general, western women are taken care of without having to be appreciative (especially city girls). On top of that, as you've eluded to; they make it hard for men to use violence to keep them safe.
They are very much removed from the reality of man, but so are many men - it's just less extreme. But not all women are irresponsible and unthankful, and men should seek those good women because no man wants to carry a brat down the road we're heading.
This is critical. Once women start to feel something is unsafe, then society generally starts making new (and often heavy handed) rules. Women are the majority of voters and men naturally wish for women to be protected, so both sides will act. However, there is an interesting dynamic in the Woke space that is probably enhancing women’s anxieties about this issue. There is such social taboo about categorizing people as “prejudicial” so that they cannot accurately detect threats and have strong awareness. So, if some sleazy Hollywood producers type invites them to follow up their interview at a hotel room, their gut instinct will be suppressed into “not all X are this way.” Some review of FBI data on victims and perpetrators of these crimes could help with women’s vigilance and feeling of ease as well. When not all men are seen as a potential attacker, they won’t find that anxiety that prompts them to take away all our guns. Also, I’m curious about the move to charge parents for the shooting crimes of their children (and not other crimes from their kids). It seems counter to what judicial system would dictate as each person is responsible for their own actions. I also think it will backfire as most mass shootings by minors are gang or urban related, so many black parents will be charged with the crimes of their kids. Not sure if that approach will last long.
Not to beat a dead horse but wasn’t Biden as a senator responsible for the stupid Gun Free Zones in America ? There used to be gun safety and shooting classes in American schools..As a farm kid growing up everyone had a gun rack hanging in their pickup trucks..My point is America and Americans have decided that safety is more important then liberty and freedom but that mindset has brought us to where we are today in our culture.
Can’t discount the fact that with the prevalence of divorce or unwed mothers rearing their children, many women have not been exposed to men on a daily basis.
There is no excuse for not having armed security at every school. Period.
I agree but the security guard at the Parkland School was armed and did nothing to stop the shooter. Compare the TX School shooting in Uvalde with dozens of heavily armed officers who did nothing to stop the ongoing massacre and the two TN officers who entered and killed the Christian School shooter immediately. Like so many things in life, it comes down to whether a person will actually act to make an effective deterrent even when armed. I think the police body cam of the TN cops methodically entering and gunning down the shooter probably was more effective in stopping subsequent ones than anything else.
I'm reminded of the song "Baby It's Cold Outside" It got a bad wrap a few years ago because the line "what's in the drink" convinced our collective pearl clutchers that he was trying to roofie her. Which speaks wonders about their view of the world -- all men who want to get a pretty girl are willing to drug her and rape her to do it -- despite the overwhelming evidence that this is not only not true but has been declining for centuries thanks to Christian anthropology that asserts universal human rights for both men and women. However... I digress.
Listen to the girl in that song:
"My mother will start to worry"
"My father will be pacing the floor"
"The neighbors might think"
"My sister will be suspicious"
"My brother will be there at the door"
"My maiden aunt's mind is vicious"
Every one of these lines is a reference to social or familial expectations: my mother expects me to be a good girl; I don't want to set a bad example for my sister; my nosy neighbor will ruin my reputation. Far from being oppressive, this girl's family and culture are giving her great tools to push back against the sexual advances of a man. (I always loved that the one she pegs as potentially violent isn't her father but the auntie-matriarch of the family. How J.D. Vancey.)
Move that girl to an apartment in Brooklyn or Los Angeles or Chicago with a man she met on Tindr or at a bar that night and none of those objections work anymore. Maybe 1950's culture really was oppressive for women, but it was also useful to them.
"All this is to say that young women don’t take their personal safety as seriously as their rhetoric suggests."
Your point is well taken. I would add:
I think they take their safety, and in general themselves, very seriously. They just don't take responsibility for their safety or actions. And why would they? In general, western women are taken care of without having to be appreciative (especially city girls). On top of that, as you've eluded to; they make it hard for men to use violence to keep them safe.
They are very much removed from the reality of man, but so are many men - it's just less extreme. But not all women are irresponsible and unthankful, and men should seek those good women because no man wants to carry a brat down the road we're heading.
This is critical. Once women start to feel something is unsafe, then society generally starts making new (and often heavy handed) rules. Women are the majority of voters and men naturally wish for women to be protected, so both sides will act. However, there is an interesting dynamic in the Woke space that is probably enhancing women’s anxieties about this issue. There is such social taboo about categorizing people as “prejudicial” so that they cannot accurately detect threats and have strong awareness. So, if some sleazy Hollywood producers type invites them to follow up their interview at a hotel room, their gut instinct will be suppressed into “not all X are this way.” Some review of FBI data on victims and perpetrators of these crimes could help with women’s vigilance and feeling of ease as well. When not all men are seen as a potential attacker, they won’t find that anxiety that prompts them to take away all our guns. Also, I’m curious about the move to charge parents for the shooting crimes of their children (and not other crimes from their kids). It seems counter to what judicial system would dictate as each person is responsible for their own actions. I also think it will backfire as most mass shootings by minors are gang or urban related, so many black parents will be charged with the crimes of their kids. Not sure if that approach will last long.
They will be selective in which parents are charged of course...