I had read Selco maybe 10 years ago. I had a neighbour who was/is a prepper, and i'd always been drawn to self sufficiency, and had just moved somewhere i could make some attempts. But covid in Canada was a huge shock. We resisted the vax due to our ethical beliefs about not benefitting from the murder of innocents. But some of my "community", the ones i looked up to, had eaten and drunk with, we'd been in each other's home, really listened to the govt propaganda, and turned on the "non obedient". I always thought in SHTF i'd just up my game and be more resourceful, and slyly undermine. But while there was a lot of that (we established forest schools where kids could learn and play together outside for hours without worrying about informers), i got really ill. Every time the situation got worse, more rights taken away, more lies and broken logic from people who were supposed to be leaders, but were actually followers, more churches burst into during worship and pastors dragged bodily out, the more my body took that to heart. I started clenching my teeth, grinding them, my whole body tensing, constant migraines, and a whole bunch of autoimmune responses. I am not 100% " better", but i am starting to climb out of the deepest depression and i am disappointed in myself that i was not spiritually or mentally stronger. My reaction was to concentrate on beauty, fairy tales, and building community in the midst of the polarizing rhetoric. But it came at a cost. I am considering what it would mean to do it on a much bigger scale.
I believe this sort of thing, having an Eastern European background. Some stories from WWII, which had civil war vibes in Eastern Europe:
1. Father hears noises outside, confronts horse thieves and is killed.
2. Man has to disappear to avoid being killed. Family not sure if he’s alive for a year.
3. One of the siblings doesn’t look like the rest.
4. Family wealth invested in the wrong bonds, completely lost.
5. Two year old catches illness while travelling on a crowded and cold train, dies.
6. Hiding in the fields with livestock hoping soldiers don’t take them.
7. Girl walking for days to deliver food to male relative in a camp.
The point is that this sort of horrific stuff actually happened to millions of people. We can barely comprehend it and we shouldn’t welcome it anywhere.
My second point is that the mental effects of this reverberate down the generations. The people who went through this were often damaged: mean, hoarders, anxious, repressed, and that has an effect on their kids and grandkids. I honestly think it takes about three generations to work itself out.
Your comment made me think about the effects of the Great Depression on my own family. Both of my maternal grandmothers were basically abandoned-one ended up living in a tent on a farm in North Carolina and the other sleeping on a relative’s back porch. The abuse that she endured was horrific. My paternal grandfather was taken out of school and forced to chop firewood at eight years old. My maternal grandfather was forced to leave school and take care of his mother after his father died. The insanity inflicted upon my grandparents made for a violent childhood for my generation (my siblings and my cousins were all equally abused). My generation managed to break the cycle. It took conscious effort every day. It took thinking before speaking. It took pretending to be normal and happy in order to turn out normal and happy children. We’ve been mostly successful at turning out good children who go on to do good things as good adults.
How fragile is civilization? It can be broken by a few thousand greedy men who break a stock market. Three generations later, it’s broken again…depressing.
Sorry to hear about what happened, but I believe it. Children were put through many horrible things through poverty. As a young boy, my dad was put on a plane and sent to live with his aunt in Canada. Never saw his parents again. No abuse in our case, but that sort of thing does have lingering effects that can be passed on if you’re not careful.
Youre all gonna want to take in Alex Jones’ interview by Tucker Carlson that just dropped. It is a doozy. They are predicting big time violence this summer. Hard to see why they’d be wrong. And theres a lot more mind blowing stuff in the chat.
I had read Selco maybe 10 years ago. I had a neighbour who was/is a prepper, and i'd always been drawn to self sufficiency, and had just moved somewhere i could make some attempts. But covid in Canada was a huge shock. We resisted the vax due to our ethical beliefs about not benefitting from the murder of innocents. But some of my "community", the ones i looked up to, had eaten and drunk with, we'd been in each other's home, really listened to the govt propaganda, and turned on the "non obedient". I always thought in SHTF i'd just up my game and be more resourceful, and slyly undermine. But while there was a lot of that (we established forest schools where kids could learn and play together outside for hours without worrying about informers), i got really ill. Every time the situation got worse, more rights taken away, more lies and broken logic from people who were supposed to be leaders, but were actually followers, more churches burst into during worship and pastors dragged bodily out, the more my body took that to heart. I started clenching my teeth, grinding them, my whole body tensing, constant migraines, and a whole bunch of autoimmune responses. I am not 100% " better", but i am starting to climb out of the deepest depression and i am disappointed in myself that i was not spiritually or mentally stronger. My reaction was to concentrate on beauty, fairy tales, and building community in the midst of the polarizing rhetoric. But it came at a cost. I am considering what it would mean to do it on a much bigger scale.
I believe this sort of thing, having an Eastern European background. Some stories from WWII, which had civil war vibes in Eastern Europe:
1. Father hears noises outside, confronts horse thieves and is killed.
2. Man has to disappear to avoid being killed. Family not sure if he’s alive for a year.
3. One of the siblings doesn’t look like the rest.
4. Family wealth invested in the wrong bonds, completely lost.
5. Two year old catches illness while travelling on a crowded and cold train, dies.
6. Hiding in the fields with livestock hoping soldiers don’t take them.
7. Girl walking for days to deliver food to male relative in a camp.
The point is that this sort of horrific stuff actually happened to millions of people. We can barely comprehend it and we shouldn’t welcome it anywhere.
My second point is that the mental effects of this reverberate down the generations. The people who went through this were often damaged: mean, hoarders, anxious, repressed, and that has an effect on their kids and grandkids. I honestly think it takes about three generations to work itself out.
Sorry, it’s pretty bleak.
Your comment made me think about the effects of the Great Depression on my own family. Both of my maternal grandmothers were basically abandoned-one ended up living in a tent on a farm in North Carolina and the other sleeping on a relative’s back porch. The abuse that she endured was horrific. My paternal grandfather was taken out of school and forced to chop firewood at eight years old. My maternal grandfather was forced to leave school and take care of his mother after his father died. The insanity inflicted upon my grandparents made for a violent childhood for my generation (my siblings and my cousins were all equally abused). My generation managed to break the cycle. It took conscious effort every day. It took thinking before speaking. It took pretending to be normal and happy in order to turn out normal and happy children. We’ve been mostly successful at turning out good children who go on to do good things as good adults.
How fragile is civilization? It can be broken by a few thousand greedy men who break a stock market. Three generations later, it’s broken again…depressing.
Sorry to hear about what happened, but I believe it. Children were put through many horrible things through poverty. As a young boy, my dad was put on a plane and sent to live with his aunt in Canada. Never saw his parents again. No abuse in our case, but that sort of thing does have lingering effects that can be passed on if you’re not careful.
Youre all gonna want to take in Alex Jones’ interview by Tucker Carlson that just dropped. It is a doozy. They are predicting big time violence this summer. Hard to see why they’d be wrong. And theres a lot more mind blowing stuff in the chat.