Anyone who’s concerned that terrorism might be used as a form of political prosecution is effectively saying that terrorism shouldn’t be a crime, period.
Team Max, but for somewhat concurring reasons. Whatever abuses that are downstream from overactive deportation/ terrorist prosecution are the lesser of two evils compared to not doing so in the long run. Public Policy must be reoriented in favor (within reason) of the needs of the many.
However, the opportunity to tar the leftist movement as egging on/aiding and abetting dirtbag terrorists in the public consciousness has considerable potential. The current spate of politically motivated Vandalism is venturing dangerously close to outright terrorism (as best I can recall from my college days, defined as violence committed by substate actors, against civilian targets, for political purposes), but much of it may fall short of properly falling within that designation. if the keying, spray-painting, refuse smearing and odd fire (iirc it was kicked off with that tesla exploding outside Trump Tower?) escalates into stochastic bombing, or even more severe, public opinion is going to move sharply in favor of strong action to check that activity, and Trump & Co can have a freer hand in meting out well overdue justice.
I agree with literally everything I’ve read from you until today. “The singular purpose of government is to protect society” is a concerning statement and could’ve been used to justify Covid vaccine mandates.
If you don't agree with that statement, surely, you can agree with this: "The singular purpose of government is to provide order." With order must come safety, otherwise, that order serves no useful purpose.
Not an honest argument. Read the Federalist Papers, which are entirely explicit about the need for both sides of this imaginary duality.
A government that does not keep order will be functionally replaced by entities that do. AND, one of the best ways to keep order is an armed citizenry that is allowed to naturally suppress low-level disorder. Leaving suppression of high-level disorder to the government - while also making it cautious about how it goes about that job.
Thanks I’ll read them and good point. What I’m trying to get at it is when the Left returns to power they can easily use these same lines about “order” and such to achieve authoritarian goals.
There's so much history out there showing what happens when the Left takes total power. Yet all we hear is all the terrible things that happen with the Right takes total power.
I don't blame people for thinking the Left is harmless. What else would you do based on what we're taught?
Except the Left has already been using the government to pursue authoritarian aims. Sure, they'll use what Trump's been doing as an excuse to pursue even more authoritarian aims, but they were doing this long before Trump. At some point, we need to fight back, but there's going to come a point where fighting back won't even be an option.
Then everyone will wonder why we didn't do anything while we still possessed the capacity to do so.
Hi Max, Wow so happy to be one of your first 1k subs. You should be pulling a much larger audience.
Team Max, but for somewhat concurring reasons. Whatever abuses that are downstream from overactive deportation/ terrorist prosecution are the lesser of two evils compared to not doing so in the long run. Public Policy must be reoriented in favor (within reason) of the needs of the many.
However, the opportunity to tar the leftist movement as egging on/aiding and abetting dirtbag terrorists in the public consciousness has considerable potential. The current spate of politically motivated Vandalism is venturing dangerously close to outright terrorism (as best I can recall from my college days, defined as violence committed by substate actors, against civilian targets, for political purposes), but much of it may fall short of properly falling within that designation. if the keying, spray-painting, refuse smearing and odd fire (iirc it was kicked off with that tesla exploding outside Trump Tower?) escalates into stochastic bombing, or even more severe, public opinion is going to move sharply in favor of strong action to check that activity, and Trump & Co can have a freer hand in meting out well overdue justice.
I agree with literally everything I’ve read from you until today. “The singular purpose of government is to protect society” is a concerning statement and could’ve been used to justify Covid vaccine mandates.
If you don't agree with that statement, surely, you can agree with this: "The singular purpose of government is to provide order." With order must come safety, otherwise, that order serves no useful purpose.
If that’s the case then they’ll take our guns away since we’d have no reason to self-defend.
Not an honest argument. Read the Federalist Papers, which are entirely explicit about the need for both sides of this imaginary duality.
A government that does not keep order will be functionally replaced by entities that do. AND, one of the best ways to keep order is an armed citizenry that is allowed to naturally suppress low-level disorder. Leaving suppression of high-level disorder to the government - while also making it cautious about how it goes about that job.
Thanks I’ll read them and good point. What I’m trying to get at it is when the Left returns to power they can easily use these same lines about “order” and such to achieve authoritarian goals.
I'm with Max. The Left is visibly evil and insane. They will have you murdered, raped, or tortured anyway, regardless of what you do.
The only linkage between our behavior now and any leftist future involves the answer to the question: "how badly did our actions cripple the left?"
There's so much history out there showing what happens when the Left takes total power. Yet all we hear is all the terrible things that happen with the Right takes total power.
I don't blame people for thinking the Left is harmless. What else would you do based on what we're taught?
Except the Left has already been using the government to pursue authoritarian aims. Sure, they'll use what Trump's been doing as an excuse to pursue even more authoritarian aims, but they were doing this long before Trump. At some point, we need to fight back, but there's going to come a point where fighting back won't even be an option.
Then everyone will wonder why we didn't do anything while we still possessed the capacity to do so.
They'd probably have to kill a lot of people in the process in order to do that.
And they’d be justified in the name of “providing order”
At the risk of losing legitimacy. Not sure that's a risk they want to take.